old european films and tunes oldish and new

Post by **mccutcheon** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:46 pm

Has anyone seen Werner Herzog's film Stroszek? Fucking great. Plot: In Berlin, an alcoholic man, recently released from prison, joins his elderly friend and a prostitute in a determined dream to leave Germany and seek a better life in Wisconsin. Doesn't get much beetr than that. Plus note to Mark, in 24 Hour Party People when Ian Curtis hangs himself, the film he is watching is.....yup you guessed it Stroszek. Since I haven't been keeping up the film page worth a shit, too busy working on the damn novel, I'll give you another gem, check out JLG's Bande a Part, called The Outsiders in English.

And since I haven't been keeping up the music page for shit, too busy DJing, what's on my turntable lately is Lizzy Mercier Descloux, Colder, the Walkmen and Fiery Furnaces. From France and over the East River, Brooklyn.

And in my CD player is all of Mark's mixes, which are super cool. And Mark I've made the CD's for you but haven't sent them out yet. But will very soon!

Kitten · Post by **Kitten** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:30 pm

i wanna go to munich.

marky · Post by **marky** » Sat May 01, 2004 9:53 am

Uh, McC. Wait a minute. This Stroszek/Joy Division connection is not new to me. In fact, if I had the power to go as far back as I'd like on Paxacidus, I could point you to the thread where I mentioned this film, when I finally rented the movie and watched it sometime probably in the latter half of 2002. It was amazing to me because back when I first discovered Joy Division, VCR's were a fairly new thing and finding a movie like that for rent was an impossibility, especially in my town. But obviously you don't remember my posting here about this. I found the film very depressing and spooky.

To prove to me you are actually listening to the CD's I sent, please explain how.

I don't think I've seen many JLG films yet, but that one you mentioned sounds familiar: there was a band that named themselves after it: Band Of Outsiders. They existed about the same time as Galaxie 500. I wasn't nuts about them, but I met people who were.

Post by **mccutcheon** » Sat May 01, 2004 3:26 pm

I'm listening to the CD's on my extrenal CD burner, which I only pull out for making CD's but now I have it out and trip over it every morning. My apartment ain't that BIG! And the film is mentioned in Touching from a Distance so it is historically accurate.

martino · Post by **martino** » Sat May 01, 2004 4:47 pm

i've enjoyed lizzy mercier since, ages ago, i got "press color" at first release, in vinyl of course, so i know what you guys are talking about.

talking about you guys: what is your take on modest mouse? i am trying to enjoy them but i find it difficult; i think they are just too clever for me.

marky · Post by **marky** » Sat May 01, 2004 11:45 pm

Martino! For the moment you are a hero to me! I have a little tiny Modest Mouse grudge myself. Part of my problem stems from the fact that they are just so big on the indie scene here, having come from here. Another part of it is, some years back there was a story about one of the members being accused of raping a woman, definitely a negative. I've heard stuff by them on the radio I have found pleasant, but just haven't quite found the fortitude to purchase anything (or even download). They're just a little too hip, too "clever" as you say. I've actually also found myself feeling this way about the Shins. I loved the first album, but the second one just struck me as pretentious, especially with the lyrics.

Anyway, what are you talking about with this Lizzie Mercier vinyl thing? "press color"??

McC, I believe you but I am curious. Your CD burner is external...but is it hooked up to the computer at all? Do you use headphones, computer speakers or are you somehow able to connect it to your mixer? Do tell. I like to know these sort of things. I can't imagine my CD burner being external. I mean it could be, but then how would you connect the large flat cable to the motherboard? Sloth if you know what's going on here, let me know.

I BET your NYC abode is small! I read in the paper that people pay enormous amounts of money for what is little more than a closet in NYC. Was it hard to find a place?

martino · Post by **martino** » Sun May 02, 2004 12:44 am

marky: thanks for the very kind and appreciated compliment, but heroes are made of different material. as to lizzy mercier, she was once very easy on the eyes indeed:

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martino · Post by **martino** » Sun May 02, 2004 12:47 am

oops:

http://www.geocities.com/dmack2002/Lizz ... cloux.html[/url]

martino · Post by **martino** » Sun May 02, 2004 12:50 am

and of course we all are more than sad about her death two weeks ago

marky · Post by **marky** » Fri May 07, 2004 4:43 pm

Hmm. This Lizzie lady looks really interesting. I like her look on the cover of Press Color, and I'm happy to see she had records out in the late 70's. I'm gonna see if I can download some of her music.

Nick Carraway · Post by **Nick Carraway** » Fri May 14, 2004 1:11 am

once you go global with movies it gets too hard for me to keep up with you man

martino · Post by **martino** » Sat May 22, 2004 10:00 am

yesterday i was at a tribute-to-lizzy evening at goto's, which is a pleasant local bar.

i was surprised at how varied and unusual her music was, since i had lost track of her during much of the nineties. for example, she recorded some stuff with chet baker that is really special.

marky: i take your point on xtc vs beta. didn't mean to diss colin moulding; he has my respect for writing some very exceptional tunes.

maybe my thoughts on this issue of colin/andy are similarly futile and dead-ended as when people complain about paul mccartney as a bad influence on john lennon... which i do, of course.

getting back to lizzy, here is a better link:

http://www.zerecords.com/artists/artist.php?id=19

marky · Post by **marky** » Mon May 24, 2004 7:00 am

But Martino - alas - when I tried to download something of her I came up with NOTHING! WOW. Wanna send me a CD? I'll try again...

Post by **mccutcheon** » Tue May 25, 2004 1:00 am

LOVE&LOVE