Luis Bunuel?

Maverick · Post by **Maverick** » Sat Jun 07, 2003 6:55 pm

You have it wrong mark, the only thing you're not allowed to say around here anymore is "Dull as dishwater"

Next person to say it gets an automatic "0" rating from me. let that be a lesson to you!

marky · Post by **marky** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 9:30 am

HA HA HA! Literally laughing out loud...

Not even in blatant sarcasm? Ha ha ha...
Brilliant! We've got another phrase banned on
the site! Just like that one to do with auto
racing that I can't mention...this is great. I'd
do a smiley face here but the graemlins don't
work for some reason. Oh well, I think this is
all totally hilarious.

But seriously, McC and/or Ooh...I hope you've
not taken Tommy's **** ** ********* insult too seriously.

Oh, I see the graemlins work at the end.

Maverick · Post by **Maverick** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 6:36 pm

See? the new rating system gives me a sense of power! Good job Sloth!

martino · Post by **martino** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:31 am

mark: "debaser" is a pixies song about a bunuel movie: le chien andalou (the andalousian dog):

"Got me a movie
I want you to know
Slicing up eyeballs
I want you to know
Girlie so groovy
I want you to know
Don't know about you
But I am un chien Andalusia

I am un chien Andalusia

Wanna grow
Up to be
Be a debaser"

simple but effective, i say

no time to write more now, i'll be back on tuesday

Post by **mccutcheon** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 12:53 pm

Debaser is fucking great.

marky · Post by **marky** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 2:50 am

Wow that's cool, Martino! I admit when I first saw that word "Andalusia" it rang musical bells in my brain but I think I might have been thinking of something else. Anyway. I've got some Bunuel movies checked out from the library now including that one, but I won't have time to watch them for awhile.

Post by **mccutcheon** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:32 pm

won't you have to pay over due fees?

marky · Post by **marky** » Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:31 am

Oh no, not at all. One of the many advantages of renting videos from the library (IF they have them, which is not always the case for movies I'm looking for) is they give you about 3 weeks to have the videos. So I will be able to finish exams and STILL
have 5 days to watch the videos before I have to get them back! And I always get them back in time.

Thanks for the concern, though, McC.

marky · Post by **marky** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 11:47 pm

Martino I have seen Un Chien Andalou now and I
think it's pretty cool. But I found it kindof annoying
that parts of it seemed very familiar, particularly the part where the clouds go over the moon and then the guy holds the blade as if he's going to slice horizontally. I think someone must have sampled that for a music video before or something. I also found the part with the ants on the hand to be familiar. I can't figure out why these things would be familiar to me if I've never seen the movie before. It kindof dulls the effect.

I've also watched Bunuel's Diary of A Chambermaid and found it to be absolutely dry as a bone boring.
I wish he'd stuck to surrealism.

Post by **mccutcheon** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:41 am

if you think you've seen it before it could be because other movies ripe it off. ants think of blue velvet.

martino · Post by **martino** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:11 am

interesting topic --

what to do when you see the original version of something that has meanwhile been turned into a cliché?

i think it's rather easy when you are talking about movies or music. knowledge always helps: when you are aware of the original version, you won't get fooled by the rip off. only very few artists can rely on inspiration without education.

it's more difficult in the case of language. when i read the expression "24/7", or "we eat drink and sleep this stuff" or "case in point" i cringe, no matter whether the subject matter was written a month or ten years ago.

marky · Post by **marky** » Fri Jun 27, 2003 3:49 am

You mean because those expressions are cliches and have been used so many times? That's interesting. I don't find those expressions repulsive, just familiar. One of the things we dealt with in my English class was getting rid of cliches in your writing, though, which does make sense. There's such a need to read it another way than the way it's been read so many times before, especially for poor English professors who have to grade the papers!

I must say one thing more about Bunuel, though, and then I think I'll quit because it should be obvious by now I like his style a lot. I just saw his last film ever (1977), called "That Obscure Object Of Desire", and I must say without a doubt, it was the best movie I have ever seen in my life.

For those unfamiliar with Bunuel, here's a perfect example of his way of unexpectedly spicing things up: the scene where the man is about to ask the mother of the woman he loves if she is okay with him marrying her daughter, and in the middle of this very serious conversation, the butler comes in and the man says "Look over there" to him and the butler reaches underneath the chair and pulls out a dead mouse in a mousetrap, says "Ah, no more rambling around," and quietly leaves the room. All this without unduly disturbing their conversation or alarming the lady. Funny and dead brilliant.

I also saw "El (This Strange Passion)" from '52 and
thought it was great as well. But "That Obscure Object Of Desire" is going to be hard to beat.