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p.s. was is das, mein freund martino?
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congrats to the fine game, y'all!

so it's usa-germany on friday.

so be it. may the best team win, as long as it is germany.

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Oh Yeah!!!! USA all the way. And the way the Mexican cunts fouled in the last few minutes when they knew it was over made me want to throw up my taco. Okay Martino see you next.
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sweden-cameroon: more proof supporting my theory that you can't win if you play ass-backwards

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shit, i meant sweden-senegal. been drinking too much beer for breakfast.

rosie: egads!, my condolences! no prague for you this year, honey!?

well, there's always next year.

or, you could try the tested method i always employ: double up on the next bet!
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If anyone at the start would have bet USA in the final 8 they would be rich now. If they bet USA 2-0 against Mexico they could retire. Shit, once again I hang my head and wonder why not me? Maybe I'll bet USA 5-0 over Germany and take the winnings to come visit Martino.
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For those of you who missed the biggest game in U.S. soccer history here it is all retold by a cheeky Brit who fancies himself as funny. He probably drinks halves down the pub and is crap on the pitch. Still- nice job if you can get it.

Mexico 0 - 2 USA

McBride 8, Donovan 64

Scott Murray
Monday June 17, 2002

End whistle: Mexico 0 - 2 USA. It's a berth in the last eight of the World Series for the States, and you can't say these jocks haven't deserved it after a superb offensive display. Germany await: there'll be a hell of a lot of towel-flicking in the locker room tonight. Actually, despite my tedious riffing, this needs to be said: the US have been worthy winners today. And many apologies to Beau Giles from San Fransisco, who has sent me an email with the subject heading: Dude, you're totally harshing my buzz, man.
90 min +4: Should have been a third soccer point, but Jones's wingplay is wasted when Donovan, free in the zone with only Perez to beat, kicks less accurately than a Norwood in a Super Bowl.

90 min +2: Mastroeni goes off, Llamosa comes on.

90 min: Five minutes of added time to be played.

89 min: The US are closing this one out. Their fans - and there are plenty in the stadium - have started to sing. Altogether now: Take me out to the ball game, Take me out with the crowd, Buy me some peanuts and Crackerjacks, I don't care if I never never get back, Let me root, root root for the home team, If they don't win it's a shame, For it's one, two, three strikes you're out at the old ball game!

88 min: Powerplay to US! Marquez is sin-binned for the remainder for - there's no other way to put this - kicking Cobi Jones up the arse.

86 min: Blanco holds the ball up on the right, but holds his hands out in frustration as if to ask where the hell his support is.

84 min: The States have removed the sting from this game; they're in total control. Donovan is scythed down by Carmona; from the free-kick they win a corner.

83 min: Luna is taken off by paramedics. Within a minute he's back on. Friedel is flagged for an unofficial time out.

79 min: Jones is sent flying by an unacceptable sliding tackle from Garcia Aspe. Flag! On report!

78 min: Time out. McBride goes off to be replaced by Coventry success story Cobi Jones. Mexicans take water. Hannah Pok thanks everyone for wishing her luck.

76 min: Stewart fires in a shot from nearly 40 yards. It's wide, but the space the States are getting in the centre of the pitch is amazing at present. If only there was an organist who could play a few verses of Take Me Out To The Ball Game.

74 min: Mexico aren't creating much at the moment; the US have taken the sting out of the game. Time for respect again, I think: the States deserve their lead at present and are making the Mexicans look very ordinary indeed.

71 min: Perez miskicks wildly to give away a corner. From the angle, Lewis swivel-kicks against the stanchion. If that had gone in, a place in the semis of the Summer Soccer Kickabout would have surely been theirs. Nick Walsh opines: "With such a narrow lead and the clock running down surely the USA will be bringing on a closing pitcher any minute."

69 min: Flag! Blanco booked for a tantrum.

66 min: Hernandez, who must have come on for someone or other at some point (sorry), goes down in the box and is booked for simulation (that's Fifa-speak, not American).

64 min: GOAL Mexico 0 - 2 USA. Two soccer points to no score! Eddie Lewis makes a cross-pitch play from the left zone, finding Landon Donovan alone in the danger area. He top-bodies the sphere into the score bag, and Mexico have a double-negative stat!

62 min: Flag! Kicking violation along the face of the US zone by O'Brien. Luna's free-kick is high and, like George Bush, far too far to the right.

59 min: Earnie Stewart, he of the mis-spelt first name, comes on from Josh Wollf, which is the sort of name only an American jock would have. Still not the most American US footballer's name of all time, though: Shep Messing still holds that award.

56 min: Mexico are piling forwards. If Borgetti had eyebrows like Liam Gallagher he'd have headed an equaliser, but he misses Torrado's fierce shot-cum-cross by a whisker.

54 min: Berhalter really is trying it on. He clearly punches the ball in the US area and is lucky to escape without giving away a penalty.

51 min: Luna whips in a wicked free-kick from the right wing. Friedel misjudges the flight of the ball, getting under it a tad, and can only push the ball onto the bar and out for a corner. From the corner there's an almighty scramble which is finally put out for another corner. Flag! Berhalter for manhandling an offensive player, the sort of challenge you'd see in proper football with helmets and all that.

49 min: Flag! Wolff procrastinates over a sideline handpass and is ref-charged for clock abuse.

48 min: McBride pushes Luna over on the edge of the box. Blanco stands over the free-kick and blasts the ball hopelessly at the US wall. Maybe he should have tried to bunny-hop over it.

47 min: Flag! Mastroeni is put on report for a charging transgression. This respect thing hasn't started well: Dom Ellis hopes the Mexicans can improve their cross-border sorties and send the US into fourth-quarter recession.

46 min: OK, time to show the States a bit of respect. They've got a damn sight further than Scotland, after all. Mercado has replaced Vidrio, by the way.

First period shutdown: The US are worth their one soccer point advantage at the 50 percent stage, but can they hold out after the directional switcharound? We'll find out soon, but now it's time for the half-time show. It's time for me to have a luncheon hour, so grab me a dog and a root beer for sippin' on your way back from the can, will ya? Good luck messages for Hannah have hit the 20 mark, by the way.

44 min: Borgetti finds some space down the right but there's nobody in the box to get on the end of his cross. Which does rather beg the question: why didn't he have a pop himself? Seven good-luck messages already for Hannah Pok, although as Jonathan Westwood points out, she won't need it as she'll have no doubt diligently undertaken a thorough programme of revision.

42 min: Borgetti nearly latches onto a cross from Carmona, but Friedel comes diving in to fist clear.

40 min: Mexico pressure, but it's coming to nothing.

36 min: And then, down the other end, Wolff is played onside by Marquez. But standing on the free-strike-attempt eight-meter disc, he targets the sphere straight at Mexican netminder Perez. Nobody's wishing Hannah Pok any luck for her exam.

35 min: Friedel recreates the sort of form Liverpool fans will remember him fondly for, as he punches weakly straight to the feet of Borgetti, who is free on the penalty spot. The keeper atones for his error by tipping away Borgetti's violent return at the last.

33 min: Mexico's first sortie into the US box for quite a while ends limply, as Torrado's cross from the right is easily cleared by O'Brien.

30 min: Rodriguez nearly sends Blanco away down the left wing, but the States push up and he's caught offside. Mexico need to get their act together, as they've not really looked dangerous since the goal.

28 min: McBride nearly latches on to a long sideline handpass from Lewis in the Mexican zone, but the offensive play is snuffed out by Vidrio.

26 min: Flag! Eddie Pope is yellow-marked for contact infringement.

22 min: We're on the back burner at the moment. Ilan Caron is still convinced I've got the score wrong. "The USA leading? This is absurd. A country that completely doesn't appreciate soccer shouldn't be allowed to get this far. When Tiger Woods was asked about the World Cup, his answer was: 'Not familiar with it. I've never been asked to participate.' For this alone, the US team should start all games with a deficit of two football points."

19 min: The States are getting a bit of ball-time now, making Mexico run about for a bit. Apologies to everyone for getting the score wrong earlier, by the way. I've corrected it now, so thanks for pointing it out. I'm only human, a mass of insecurities and contradictions made flesh.

16 min: The US cross the halfway line for the second time in the match, and there's more trouble afoot for Mexico. Donavan is brought down by Marquez while running at pace through the middle. He's lucky to escape without a booking; the free-kick is wasted by Reyna.

13 min: The States are quite happy to sit back and let Mexico knock it around the centre circle, but they nearly pay when Morales picks the ball up wide on the left, cuts inside across the face of the box and sends a powerful low shot just to the left of Friedel's goal. Hannah Pok has an exam at 2.30 this afternoon. I'm sure I'll not be the only person wishing you good luck, Hannah.

10 min: Mexico retain possession in an attempt to regain their composure.

8 min: GOAL Mexico 0 - 1 USA. Here we are for another shock? The States cross the halfway line for the first time in the match, Reyna pelting down the right wing. He makes the byline and cuts the ball back; it's deflected into the path of Brian McBride who, with Perez in the Mexican goal totally stranded, sidefoots powerfully into the net. That's one soccer football point to no score!

4 min: It's all Mexico in the opening exchanges, and it's all down the right wing.

3 min: First corner of the game goes to Mexico, and it's hearts-in-the-mouths time for the States as Carmona takes the ball on the byline, twists and sends in a looping cross which is nearly converted by Borgetti. It's neither here nor there, however, because the ref's blown up for a goal kick.

2 min: Blanco takes a free-kick which Friedel sees late; the Blackburn keeper's behind it though.

1 min: And we're off. If I managed to get through the whole 90 minutes without mentioning Old El Paso or using phrases like "free strike attempt from the eight-meter disc" I'll be doing well.

The anthems: Very pleasant, neither of them being that British dirge.

The teams: Morning all. Mexico are unchanged from the 1-1 draw with Italy, but the US have made four changes. Gregg Berhalter, Pablo Mastroeni, Eddie Lewis and Josh Wolff are in; Frankie Hejduk (suspended), Jeff Agoos (injured), Clint Mathis and Ernie Stewart are out.

Mexico: Perez, Marquez, Carmona, Vidrio, Torrado, Morales, Luna, Johan Rodriguez, Arellano, Borguetti, Blanco. Subs: Brown, Caballero, Campos, Gabriel De Anda, Garcia Aspe, Garcia, Hernandez, Mercado, Palencia, Alberto Rodriguez, Sanchez, Villa.

USA: Friedel, Berhalter, Sanneh, Pope, Mastroeni, O'Brien, Lewis, Reyna, Wolff, McBride, Donovan. Subs: Agoos, Beasley, Cherundolo, Jones, Keller, Llamosa, Mathis, Meola, Moore, Regis, Stewart.

Referee: V M Pereira (Portugal)
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England-Brazil is coming up! You gotta love this World Cup. That is unless you are from France, Argintina, Portugal or Wet Back land (Mexico).
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mc and martino, are you for england or brasil?
can we bet some cash money? i am for brasil.
let me know.
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betting against rosie:

interesting proposition, honey. let me ponder the pros and cons.

basically i am for brazil. i am an original boy from brazil; they are used to playing in the heat and ronaldo et al are well in form. also, brazil can resort to macumba and condomble whenever the chips are down.

the english team may be better but in this tournement the better team does not necessarily win. becks is everybody's favorite but he is married to posh, the dumb bitch.

everybody hates the english including the irish and the welsh. hell, even the scouses may set up their own national team. go through brixton and you will more senegalese flags -- right, ooh?

so, the english are underdogs in some strange way. lots of my friends are for england because they think the brazilians are arrogant.

what the hell, it's worth a blow either way. ok rosie, i bet you 25 bucks england wins. deal?
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I'm still mad at Mexico. Hey Mexico you go home. And next time you leave our Cobi Jones alone!

Everybody better make sure they watch Italy and S.Korea. In this Wolrs Cup it proves to be a great match!
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The Welsh and the Scots and the Irish all hate England. Nothing has changed so far. They would never consider cheering them on (except in the Olympics when Britain plays as a team). Go figure that one out.

The actual countries of England, Ireland, and Scotland only seem to officially exist anymore in the context of the World Cup. Otherwise its the UK of GB. It confuses me to no end. And the only people who would ever say they're 'British' are the second generation africans and asians (indians).

Beckham is a great footballer, really fun to watch, but he's not the brightest light in the city, if you know what I mean. He doesn't read or think abstractly or even drink to excess. He's the perfect role model... he just watches TV and plays football. That's why I think he should be king. He's perfect for it and so Posh is a perfect match for him. I hope they have beautiful children and make England feel better about itself.

Rosie what is the fascination with gambling? That's something I never understood. If you need to get rid oif your money so badly then send it to me so I can buy some pills this weekend in Edinburgh.
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better yet i'll just send you the pills, which ones?
the fascination has always been there. my father designs vegas. i started playing craps at a young age. i love the adrenaline from a win.pulling yourself away is a rush too. i was also married to a man who gambled and we probaly got along best at the craps table. i really don't throw that much away, just a holiday.see you in prague in sept.
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our bet is on. thanks for letting me have brasil,another fascination.
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Well well well, did't I call it. S. Korea defeats Italy. Truth be told Italy had bad luck this World Cup. But shit man. I've heard that people are complaining because the best team never wins. Now an upset here and there and I would understand that, it is sports afterall, but I have another theory. I think the smaller teams are playing with more heart and stragedy and game plan. All the European powerhouses went out and played their game thinking that was enough to win because they had more talent, they disrespected their opponets and it cost them and they lose. Even I'm not buying my theory 100% but I do think there is something to it. I've heard this is the World Cup for the minnows(because many favorites have fallen) The minnoes are becoming bigger fish. I also have two theories about the U.S. team. They are young and all this experience will radically help them in 2006 when they play in Martino land, they could go even further than the final 8. Or not. Since America is so big you would think there would be a growing fraction of the population dedicated to soccer. Not so. We are always told it's the fastest growing sport, but in reality, the TV doesn't cover it, the newspapers don't cover it, it's not on the minds of people. My friends don't know the game, or that the U.S. hosted a World Cup a few years ago. Unbelievable. Soccer is as forgien in the U.S. as cricket, no one cares or understands and all the best atheletes don't learn soccer, they go for the big money- basketball, or football- could you imagine if the U.S. soccer team had a Michael Jordan or Brett Farve on their team? This is a great ride for the U.S. and it's not over. But come on, we will never be a Brazil or Germany or England until we get the best athletes, and I'm not saying the current players aren't great and playing their hearts out, but we need more suppost. And we will need a better president. president Bush called the team before they played Mexico and this is what he said, "There are a lot of people who don't know anything about soccer, like me, but we know we are excited and pulling for you." But for me, this allows be to be the underdog and I love that feeling, when you win and your not supposed to, U.S. can harldly claim that postion in anything else. I mean I am having a great time supposting my team that last World Cup finished dead last and has now gone this far. i am having a much better time then say all the teams that were supposed to win and have gone home. And yes, I do shed a small tear for Argintina. I was at the World Cup in 90 and talked to an old woman from Cameroon, she was so excited. Now I fell like that African woman.
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The President of Mexico called The White House and requested to talk to Bush. He wanted to watch the USA-Mexico match together on the boarder of the two countries. A presidential aid replied, "The president will be asleep at that time."
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