Andro 2033

martino · Post by **martino** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 11:28 am

anybody interested in a collaborative effort to write something? i have this story idea -- don't know if it is any good, and if it has potential for a short story, for something longish, or for a screenplay.

but pax acidus people are smart, well-read and know about sexy topics so i thought this might be a good place to ask.

first of all, forum, please comment: does the plot have any merit? is it original? do you know of a similar science fiction story?

why i would like to collaborate: the fact of the matter is, i can't write fiction. sometimes i am pretty imaginative, but as soon as i actually start writing things, it turns out all wrong. i am like beavis: "it's pretty cool to kinda think about things and stuff, he he, heheheheh....".

how about one of those ping-pong email exchanges where a story gets built up slowly, dialogues are added and each person contributes whatever he is able?

(in case there are any intellectual shoplifters out there: the content of this here message is copyright to me, which now has been duly witnessed and will be googled in due course.)

thanks for any help or for any comments!

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"Andro 2033" - First treatment

The time is thirty years in the future. The place, the US or some similar place. Things are basically as fucked up as they are now, only more so.

(For example, people are still thinking thin but living fat; the average weight of a person in the western world is 25 pounds heavier than in the present and most middle-class people are seriously fatso -- in fact, most boys have tits. people overwork, undersleep, watch tv all the time and stuff their faces.)

The most popular subculture of the day is the Andro movement. Almost as ubiquitous as the hippie subculture of the 1960s, Andros are in the best case young, beautiful, slim, sexy, arrogant, but above all: super-androgynous.

Their basic rule is: don't let anyone know whether you are male or female. In fact: there *is* no male or female; you just may happen to have a dick or a pussy, but that doesn't influence with whom you have sex. Indeed, having a penis may or may not mean that you have breasts. The hermaphrodite is the ideal.

Biologically male Andros can be more feminine or masculine in sex and love but an outsider cannot really tell. The same applies to a biologically female Andro, of course. You can seem to be more like a guy or a girl on the outside but on the inside, who knows?

Andros party hard, listen to the best music (their own, of course), have lots of sex and know which natural drugs are best. (Does all this ring a bell?) They scorn high tech drugs and the money-oriented middle-class.

Needless to say, the middle class hates the Andro culture and blames the whole downfall of civilization on these sexy, sexless people.

The most desirable thing to have is also the most illegal posession: the infamous iDrug machine. This is a suitcase-sized, highly sophisticated natural drug synthesizer. You fill the iDrug with a thimble-size amount of your own blood and then select the kind of drug you want it to make using a touch-screen display; also you must select whether you want an injection-type drug or a suppository. The iDrug can then produce a super-strong opiate, halicinogene, stimulative, sedative or whatever else you want -- more powerful than any of the old-fashioned drugs but undetectable, because of its all-natural ingrediants. Possession of an iDrug machine is a capital offense and the police are known to shoot anyone seen in proximity to one.

The hero of the story is a regular sort of guy, a nonconformist loner. He begins a love affair with a highly attractive, seductive Andro who, to his quick relief, turns out to be female. In time, his lover gets strange and distant and leaves him.

He is now hooked to Andro love and has sex with another who turns out to be male. Our hero weathers his inner storms and manages to cope but still yearns for his strangely seductive girl. He discovers she is involved in the darker areas of Andro culture and is connected to people who are making and selling a new generation of iDrug machines. He wins her back into his bed but gets himself into some serious shit...

How it ends: how the hell should I know? I'll blow that bridge when I cross it!

ROSEMARY · Post by **ROSEMARY** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 4:15 pm

so andro's facilitate all of humans deepest desires?
i like this. very creepy
tell more

Post by **mccutcheon** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 5:40 pm

This is very good. And as science fiction we should also keep it as close to society as it is today. I mean we shouldn't jump 30 years ahead and have everybody in personal flying machines. What has changed is the sub culture. Everyone going back to Bowie and Lou Reed (a sub sub cluture- the retro Andro- which the hero can start out as, so the reader can relate a little. Then he can change as his love for the culture and girl. Oral sex should be the main for of pleasure. There should be a three way oral sex exchange i.e. boy and girl bothing giving head to another person- either boy or girl. That should be the sex trend, gender bending, bisexual, safe. All Andros love to both suck dick and eat pussy together. They have parties for it.

You need an end also. So you can take it how you want. This could be very cool. Let me see what you come up with.

martino · Post by **martino** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 5:42 pm

i kinda thought they were like hippies. certainly not god-like or anything.

all of human's desire? beats me. you tell me!

martino · Post by **martino** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 5:46 pm

the last post was re: rosie.

this post is re: mc.: glad to see you are putting the stress on sex. and you have guessed exactly what i had in mind in terms of sexual practices.

both of you two: thanks for the extremely fast and very kind comments -- much more than i expected.

Post by **mccutcheon** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 5:48 pm

They should be much cleaner than hippies. Baths should be a big thing- also haircuts- no shaggy long hairs. Everyone should have a meduim size Joan Jett Mullet. Black lipstick. Sunglasses. Clean shaven. That's my view- but they are your Andros.

bicycleprince · Post by **bicycleprince** » Sun Apr 21, 2002 5:44 am

I think the andros should stress nonconformity more then the hippies did by looking very different than each other. The only physical similarity between all andros is that they are androgynous. And are they born looking that way, or do they inject natural hormones? I pick the injections.

martino · Post by **martino** » Sun Apr 21, 2002 9:51 am

remarkable thoughts, thank you all. let's see:

bodily hygiene: yep, stink is no good. personally, every time i watch Easy Rider i am glad scent-movie technology flopped when they tried to introduce it. i am all for the old slogan: "other bb's are for people with good taste. Pax Acidus is for people who taste good!"

facial hair: i am a child of the eighties and therefore cannot support it.
but:

body hair: rosie: whither this? if The Man Who Fell to Earth was your customer, what would you do with him? bleach his pubes?

safer sex: man, i am baffled by this subject. i think this deserves a thread of its own. can't imagine that rubbers will still be in use in 30 years time. at the same time i am sure v-diseases will still be around, probably more exotic and new-and-improved than ever. i notice that young people in my area dislike condoms even more than i do. so oral sex it is? hmm mc, i reckon you may be onto something significant.

the end: well, the conventional conclusion might be:

- hero turns out to be a nark but is conflicted. or:

- iDrug machine kills somebody (perhaps faulty synthesizer chip installed?) and hero is conflicted.
or:

- hero discovers one of the obscure objects of his desire is a nark.

not sure about any of these. gotta think. i'll ask beavis.

mullets: man, only the bad guys wear mullets! cops too. i know: joan jett's mullet is cool. but lou reed's sucks!

" they are your Andros": nope, they are in the Pax Acidus domain as of now. all i want is to split the story copyright with contributers and have a right to veto bad ideas or something.

- jack & the injections: excellent idea. in fact, perhaps the andros should have a hot-rodded version of the iDrug machine that also produces personal-appearance hormones.

springtime and sunshine. good weather, sidewalk cafes and good ideas. let's keep talking people!

Post by **mccutcheon** » Sun Apr 21, 2002 8:29 pm

Tek is Soma is Ecstasy without the come down is iDrug machine which is thought contol or not. I think that iDrug should make people selfish in their shared love. Have to work on the concept.

I think there should be a machine that can gage the force of orgasm and people who can give the best orgasms are the 'coolest' Andros who wear their talent like a badge. It's public knowledge, posted on a web site. An Oragasm Giver walks into an Andro club and are like a celeberity because all other Andros know that you can give 15 people an oragasm a night. The Andro groupies surround the orgasm star. In Andro culture Orgasm Givers are like rock stars or movie stars- a new pop cultural/sexual symbol. Of course there are magazine articles and calanders of these Orgasm Givers. They are on TV. They are like Page Three girls- models who are not super models. They live in big cities and never pay for a drink.

Daily Taylor · Post by **Daily Taylor** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 7:21 am

Hey great idea man! I would imagine that they would all kinda have Beatle-like mop tops for a hair style. Blonde mop tops for all the hip Andro's. It is an androgenous hairstyle too. I like the concept of the I-Drug machine too. But are they going to be that bountyful? Or are there only a few in existance? It would be cool if it was one of the only machines and our heros have it taken from them. Now they search to get the precious machine back! Could these machines be used for darker purposes?

Daily Taylor · Post by **Daily Taylor** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 7:25 am

Hey has anyone ever read "Tek War" by William Shatner? All joking aside, he paints an interesting vision of the future that this sorta reminds me of. Everyone loves the drug "Tek" and I believe it's even a suitcase shaped contraption. I might be wrong though, I read it 10 years ago or so.

<jack cheifton> · Post by **<jack cheifton>** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 7:28 am

What the fuck is "tek" and who is your daddy?

martino · Post by **martino** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 9:14 am

daily: you are right, the machine should be rarified. kinda like the golden fleece. very good idea.

daily, again: shatner, yeah! anything by him must be either fantastic or totally stupid. i am gonna try and get the book. thanks for the info!

mcbrain: fucking brilliant idea! orgasm-giving ability as the key to popularity -- yes, that's it. some people (call em drug dj's or orgasm emcee's) will be able to prepare exactly the right mix of oxytocin and smack and whatever else you need to bust your nut like krakatoa.

they'd be mythical figures. nobody would fool around with self-strangling any more if there was a master-iDrug operator in the neighborhood.

of course, you'd have some really gruesome accidents too, with president's daughters getting their brains fried after a badly-tuned overdose. yeah, let's think about this one.

Post by **mccutcheon** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 4:53 pm

And ending. I think the climax is that the other lover Andro Ã¢â‚¬Ëœthe boy' not the female true love Andro is a nark. The female is involved with drugs and gets caught or about to get killed and the hero has to make a decision weather to go along with the side of the law and be with the boy nark or help the girl to escape and or kill the nark. I'd go with the hero helping his girl true love.

I also think there should be a character named Tiny. Tiny is the heroe's sidekick/bumbling best friend. Tiny wants to be into the Andro culture but is too fat and ugly. He looks like a big Sumo wrestler and can be physically intimidating, but really he has the purest heart in the story. Inside he is all timid and lovely. Tiny has a petite pet dog he walks along named Pervert. Pervert is as tiny as a rat and gets dressed up in sweaters and all that. Tiny really prefers big German Shepherd dogs, but Tiny heard the rumor that pet owners, over time, start to resemble their pets, and Tiny is hoping to end up looking like Pervert so he can join the Andro culture. Tiny can't be bothered to starve himself, exercise, or take loads of the iDrug that keeps many of the Andros thin.

Post by **mccutcheon** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 11:39 pm

Another idea is I think the hero should be called Max. I know of three Ã¢â‚¬ËœMax's' born in the last year. It's a name coming back into fashion. I also like the fact that Max is the name of both Max in Where the Wild Things Grow - a child fairy tale with monsters and such and the name of Mad Max- the brilliant Australian apocalyptic film.