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What is Everyone Rebelling Against?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2001 10:09 pm
by Lokil
What is there to really rebel against?
Sure the other side exists but if anyone says they have the same power they had 30-40 years ago, you are tripping.
No Church
No Family
Weed is not as bad
No Morals
No Universal Rules for society
Lowering of Standards
Double Standards in regards of skin color
Presidents that have no respect
Public discussion of sex inthe White House
Shows for fags
Discounting the Supreme Court
There is nothing left. Do whatever you want.
Have fun. Because in the end it's all about YOU, isn't it?
Grow up. Stop doing e, youre going to f up your memory.
What is Everyone Rebelling Against?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2001 10:18 pm
by mccutcheon
oh boy! here we go...well whatever, I'm too happy looking in the mirror to reply.
What is Everyone Rebelling Against?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2001 11:25 pm
by Lokil
No mc cutcheon, or is it Mr. Pape? After seeing all those pictures I feel as if I know you. Please enlighten my nineteen, almost twenty year old brain. I'll be objective, all I would like is a fair arguement.
I feel your gen-X'er pain, I really do.
P.S. I enjoy looking in the mirror too
What is Everyone Rebelling Against?
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2001 12:09 am
by Jack Chiefton
So Lokil, what are you exactly saying? Should we all just conform to the bullshit that is plaguing our country these days. I personally think that we were better off in some respect 30-40 years ago. And in other ways, we weren't. Maybe it is time to splice yesterday and today together..who really knows??
And who is rebelling against their families on this site? Nothing I have read implies it.
Personally, I think that the government should stay the fuck out of our lives and that is why I vote libertarian, and I think I will to the day I'm rotting in my grave.
As for doing E, I personally don't, but from what I hear, despite the serotonin part of it, maybe you should try it for just maybe it will give you an hour of enlightenment.
What is Everyone Rebelling Against?
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2001 3:34 am
by Lokil
*is rolling*
lol. coooooool
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What is Everyone Rebelling Against?
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2001 3:55 am
by Jack Chiefton
totse? What is that? and no, no, no, I will not conform and you will not make me :P (if I haven't already)sometimes when no body is looking, I like to eat hamburger meat with my fingers and sniff coffee stains on the carpet..... ssssshhhhh, don't tell anyone. pushing weeds out of your way is the right way to walk through the fields...
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What is Everyone Rebelling Against?
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2001 5:59 am
by Jack Chiefton
Jesus H. Christ, why is it that whenever you
think that you've finally come to terms with
why the fuck you're here, something taps you
on the shoulder and slaps you in the face???
To quote Sloth, I believe, "I'm a materialistic whore," and all of us are. No, none of us are partial to that, so go bury your head into a big mac, slander someone who has never hurt you, and throw your fucking garbage out(after all, isn't trash bins and recycling just isolated and compartmentalized littering?) What else is left to live for?
What is Everyone Rebelling Against?
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2001 9:21 pm
by Lokil
Please accept my apologies if I hurt your feelings. That was not my intent.
I do not wish for you to conform, because I myself do not. But I have learned it is funner to conform when it suits me to, and not to when I do not want to.
The way we think as a generation is a direct result of how are parents raised us.
I have been around your site and I enjoy it. Through reading your stories, etc. I believe (and hopefully you as well) I have a empathetic and FAIR understanding of your perception of the world.
Our parents are the same ages but MY parents had me ten to twelve years after the PAX ACIDUS gang came along. I was raised after my parents came down from the revolutionary cloud everyone had been in and desperately tried to duplicate the job their parents did with them. You guys were raised in a whole different light. And they way you act and how you have led your lives show that a great deal.
You were raised with more idealistic values and I was taught with some of the old 1950's - early sixties type values.
I came along a very interesting post by a person of our parents generation, sad to say the LEAST.
Posted by pavlov on February 09, 1998 at 23:17:55:
As a child of the 60's, I am proud of the stand we took to make the world a better place. We didn't get it all done, but we tried. I am appalled at the lack of vision and commitment that I see in today's Gen X kids. The problem is that we BBoomer parents failed to instill a sense of social urgency and core values into our kids. All you have to do is listen to the alternative music of today to understand how lost the current generation of kids are . . .it's all about anger, death, and nihilism. Where's the hope? Where's the vision? Fellow BBoomers, we've failed. Sorry.
http://www.netwalk.com/~duchapl/wwwboard/messages/71.html
I can honestly say that I dabble in both consciousnesses.
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What is Everyone Rebelling Against?
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2001 9:28 pm
by Lokil
It makes me angry to think that because your parents raised you guys in a time that they were questioning THEIR existence, that you guys will question yours, until you die.
You've been conditioned dudes. I feel your pain. But please, it is up to you. Stop the vicious cycle.
Another great post.
I write to say that alas, the GI's have failed for the boomers have not turned out to be what the GI's hoped they would be. In the aftermath of World War 2, Baby Boomers were treated to unprecedented educational opportunities and given all every chance to build a better future by carrying on their parents goals of creating a world with wonderful new appliances and ever expanding level of wealth, consumer goods, and conformity to greater civic purpose. Also, this young generation was to be a new cohort of soldiers to fight America's battles to bring Truth, Justice, and the American way to all corners of the planet! These were to be great scientists and engineers. Great soldiers and businessmen. New leaders of mega-businesses and union blocks!
Alas, I am afraid the GI's have failed. For their children care more about discovering themselves than about maintaining our societies industry and empire. They do not value these things that we have created. They are more interested in this internal world of theirs than the outer world which is crumbling! How can we have gone wrong? And listen to their music. They say nothing about the sacrifices necessary to maintain the community. And they are unwilling to give up anything themselves for the future - they think only of consumptionTheir music is narcistic and so filled with awful emotions - emotions that we were able to repress in order to get the job done. It is so depressing to hear them. We have failed. Sorry.
ooh, the sloth and mc cutcheon make children that will become civic leaders. You will be terrifc parents... IF YOU FORCE YOURSELVES. Remember the greater good and sacrifices.
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What is Everyone Rebelling Against?
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2001 7:29 am
by Jack Chiefton
Lokil-
America is a stratified, egocentric capitalistic society. We are in no way egalitarian or sociocentric. Our economy runs through authority and not influence. Is that a good thing?? Do you really think it is? Ask any anthropologist that has studied any egalitarian society and culture if he or she honestly thinks that america is in general happier than that studied culture. But, I know where you are coming from, I really do.
Get ready men, if war is what G.W. wants, then a draft is what we might get.
SEMPER FI!!!!!
What is Everyone Rebelling Against?
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2001 12:41 pm
by SpaceMonkey001
Mind if i break into this conversation?
Don't we always think of our own generation as the "best"? The preceding usually is considered too formal or rigid, while the following is considered too wild or without motivation. Unforunately here i can point out a scene from "fight club" (not sure how everyone here views this movie) but there was a good point made: that today it seems like there is no great cause to fight for or against. We have urban chaos, but now it's getting to the point where we idolize such chaos. In some cases the "ghetto" is even considered romantic. Where are the values there? I know people that have spent their whole lives trying to get out, and kids today seem to want to get in....
I think too many things left over from past generations have been misplaced today. We cling to the structures we shouldn't and dig old ideals out that were only appropriate in a past day and time. Hmm... it seems that in order to understand my generation i will need to wait for the next in order to tell me where i fit.
Of course i could be wrong... after all i haven't slept in 3 days... and i think i'm ranting
What is Everyone Rebelling Against?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2001 10:43 pm
by Jack Chiefton
I don't know about all of you, but MY GENERATION is however long i'm going to be intact in this life.
What constitutes a generation? Do we reach a certain age and experience this chemical reaction in our brains that declares us to no longer be apart of the "present generation?"
Of course not, it is cultural, not biological. By putting an end to a "generation", we are just continually denouncing the reasons why men and women did what they did in the heat of their livelihood, like when they were in college or at the peak of their political activism. You people may not like the hippies, and you may not think they stood for much, but how could you rip apart what so many people thought was beautiful at that time? Maybe the hippies didn't stand for much, but fucking A, they had a good time trying to figure it all out. "peace and love" or whatever sounds like a good ambition to me, just like fighting for our "freedom" sounded good to all the WWII veterans. (RIP Granps, and thanks.)
I think "generation" is mainly a lame American term, and maybe European. I can tell you this though, there is no such thing as gerneration dividers in 2nd and 3rd world countries. Their generation is continous life and struggle.
Too many people are unware of the history of this planet. Without realizing what happened in the past, or coming to terms with why we are here right now, then what is the point on trying to fix anything?? What is the point to jab negative associations at past people? The WWII vets were putting their own existence in jeopardy while thinking of their children and their grandchildren's future. The hippies saw the chaos of war and preached peace and love, hopefully thinking of their children and grandchildren's future.
Or maybe I'm just not making any sense to anyone. I don't care, because it makes perfect sense to myself.
What is Everyone Rebelling Against?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2002 2:16 pm
by <rosie>
bozo, do you ingest foreskin?or check girls for thongs? i bet you do, you f====ing brainless hypocrite
What is Everyone Rebelling Against?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2002 2:54 pm
by martino
yeah that's right rosie, you tell 'im.
by the way, i'm reall glad you're back baby!