Johny Walker

KodaKangus · Post by **KodaKangus** » Fri Jan 25, 2002 11:18 pm

Come to Landstuhl, the Weizen's on me! I retract the remark calling you an asshole.

Jack Chiefton · Post by **Jack Chiefton** » Mon Jan 28, 2002 7:56 am

It's all honest and hopefully good people dieing for beauracratic ignorance. The flight going down in pennsylvania. You have good honest hard working people giving up their life in order to over take fundamentalist dip shits (and that's all they are), and also trying to save the lives of capitol hill morons. I wonder how many people that should have died in the white house that day have paid their respects to the graves of the deceased on that flight?

In Afghanistan, you got honest good people dieing in bombing raids for no reason other than they were born and raised in the wrong place at the wrong time. Talk about bullshit. I think I now understand why I will never bear arms for this country as long as we have a republican or democratic president in charge. I just might be happy the day we elect a third party president and leave the rest of the country alone. Granted i might be 99 and pissing myself.

Jack Chiefton · Post by **Jack Chiefton** » Tue Jan 29, 2002 5:18 am

I meant we should leave the rest of the WORLD alone. Has anyone realized that our military budget has gone up to something like 450 billion dollars? Ummm, that's up like 400 billion from the last time I heard. So what institutions are taking the blow (besides of course human existence)? Education, schooling, social security, you know, the usual elements that people need for their livelihood. Again, it's the innocent people in pursuit of, i don't know, SOMETHING, Happiness, whatever, taking the shrapnel in the ass for the corporations and the hierarchy. But then we STILL vote for these idiots. Oh well you may read this and say "fuck that moron, he doesn't know what he's talking about, I'll just go back to my apathetic ways."

I don't know, is there anything anyone can do anymore?

KodaKangus · Post by **KodaKangus** » Sat Feb 02, 2002 2:29 am

Hey Jack, I'm with ya. We need some serious reform. I think the educational system gets more money than it needs, though. What with all the security camera's and barcoded libraries and whatnot. And of course the reinforced metal blastdoors and concrete walls making you feel trapped in a prison. At least Capital High School in Washington was like that. But I don't know.

I voted Green. I think Nader was definately a better candidate than G dubbyah.

Change is always ready to occur, and there's someone out there with us in mind, my friend. And when the time is right, and whoever that is matures, sure we'll be pissing ourselves. But the instant mashed potatoes will be that much better, and maybe they hook us up with some hot nurses to take care of our aging selves, eh?

Post by **Sloth** » Sun Feb 03, 2002 9:01 pm

Koda I voted Green as well. I think the other parties in America are either irrelevant or misguided or in the case of the rep and dems have chosen the dark path. Ralph Nader is the only candidate that has proven an uncompromising attitude when it comes to real people.

Does anybody know what's up with Walker? What do people say about him in the States. Nobody seems to care over here.

<jack chiefton> · Post by **<jack chiefton>** » Mon Feb 04, 2002 6:11 am

so, you like to delete replys sloth?

Anyways, here in the states, it's all "kill him" "shoot him" "murder, rape, then shoot him"

You know the usual. However, I think it is no longer plausible to talk about him, since we will never hear his side of the story, and our government will most likely kill him or keep him captive for a very very long time.

Has anyone been paying attention to what has been going down in Argentina? There has been 5 different presidents in the last 2 weeks. The IMF has frozen all the bank accounts, and millions of people are revolting. Dirty business yes, but it's the only way to change tyranical systems in power. I'm starting to wonder when the insurrectionists will start revolting by force. I'm pretty much a pacifist, but if it comes down to that denominator, so be it, and I give the working people of Argentina nothing but my praises and my hope. Good Luck.

Post by **Sloth** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 11:45 am

I did not delete the post, Jack. Don't be so defensive I merely switched servers and your reply was lost. I apologize.

Yeah I figured John Walker would be hated in the States and we'd never hear his story.

As for Argentina, we could start another thread but why bother because all this talk of Politics is making me ill lets discuss something else like Black Rebel Motorcycle Club or something.

Or fuck it we could discuss politics too.

Argentina is a former British colony and like the rest of them (besides Canada maybe) they are all fucked up beyond any hope by now. They should just legalize marijuana and grow coca plants and poppies and have a giant party.

<jack chieton> · Post by **<jack chieton>** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 7:06 pm

right on sloth, you nailed it. i mean why should i even care about what's going on over there? Don't know why, don't care to ever visit the place, but there's still something not right about it. Making fun of robert frost is a much more enjoyable pasttime.

<jack chiefton> · Post by **<jack chiefton>** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 7:10 pm

and oh yeah, since you're the webmaster, I "blame" you for losing the replys! J.K. man.

<sarah> · Post by **<sarah>** » Wed Feb 06, 2002 12:43 am

They call him John Lindh, which doesn't have the infamous outlaw sound of Johnny Walker (that might make him more appealing).

The people I know who know who he is aren't big fans. But everyone is still conflicted and confused, which is understandable. There are so many ways of approaching this, and I do wonder how much of the truth anyone will ever know, which makes me give up on a truth that claims to be fact and believe in a truth that calls itself fiction. If the history books are lies and historians liars, if the media is biased and controlled or controlling, then where does one go for truth . . . fiction, which says this is what humans are.

I liked the Shakespeare quote earlier, and found it comforting; no one even knows who he was, but there is a truth of humans in what he wrote, a sort of relevancy of all relevancies, that doesn't say believe in me or go to hell. It doesn't say believe in me at all. I mean who are we least likely to trust; someone who says "trust me", so why shouldn't the inverse be true?

I've tried to humor the God.
Sloth, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club?

<sarah> · Post by **<sarah>** » Wed Feb 06, 2002 1:21 am

Joyce Carol Oates and her story "Out of Place"

The truth about war. And what we should have learned from Vietnam.

serule · Post by **serule** » Wed Feb 06, 2002 5:41 am

There is nothing either good or bad,
But thinking makes it so.
--Hamlet, II:2

yeah, shakespeare is one of the only things i can still get passionate about. "kids" these days don't seem to appreciate his mastery of the language.

Post by **Sloth** » Wed Feb 06, 2002 1:16 pm

Here is an article from Slate on John Walker....

I kinda like it so I am sharing...

http://slate.msn.com/?id=2061697