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What to do what to do...

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as I have ... apprently... broken my ankle... okay, not broken but popped the tendons or something ...

anyone have any book recommendations that I just must read? I'm bored. I can't dance ... can't run ... am confined to internet window shopping even ...
But I can still read. Anyone read the new Vonnegut novel? I remember seeing something about it on I guess The Daily Show last semster....

btw, the "new" Plath collection Johnny Panic and the Bible of Dreams is actually good; tho' it makes me think I want a baby. I guess I can still have sex ... that's not strenous for my ankle.

And this is weird but... are yoga and pilates out too? I mean ... those seem like things I could modify to not use the injured areas .....
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pixie, i'd recommed the outlaw bible of american poets -- it's really cool and huge, so if you're laid up it'll keep you okay.

about the sex and babies, i want to tell you something, and you're free to make your own decisions, but i just want to tell you about it. okay?

it's called hpv. which is a virus that can cause warts but it doesn't in a whole butt load of people it does lnot ook, smell, or seem like anything -- i've had a grand total of two sexual partners as in intercourse -- two, and one of them gave me hpv. it fucked up my entire reproductive system -- it does not look like a thing on the outside and you absolutely can not tell a person has it -- something like 80% of americans carry it, and if you don't get your shit checked you'll end up with cervical cancer and scar tissue out the yang

i'm just telling you this cause it's a huge huge problem for young women and one std they do not regularly check women for, you need to ask for it specifically -- usually they find out when they want to start having babies, like at 29 / 30 and it won't happen.

okay, there's my gross girlfriend note, be careful. there is no protection from it. none
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oh, and one more thing about hpv. i was told something contradictory to what i just read. number one it's the fastest growing std in this country -- right now 75% of sexually active people between the ages of 15 and 49 are thought to carry it, not 80% -- and it can cause cancer in males too; i didn't know that; i thought it was only females who got cancer from it, but apparently and this is really horrible, men can get cancer of the penis from it.

get your shit checked!
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I always do ... but I am in a semi commited ... okay, commited (but don't tell me, I'll probably break up with him then) realtionship. And yeah, we got checked months ago and haven't had a need to again.

... leave it to a nurse to be extra paranoid about getting checked. A women's health specialist nurse at that lmao
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you're a women's health specialist?

not to be completely off the subject of what to do, but have you heard anything about why they won't allow the vaccination that MERCK or MERK whatever the company's name is developed for hpv in any us markets?

i mean with an std that's as rapidly spreading as this, that condoms do not protect people from, one that causes cancer no less, why won't they allow the vaccine to be sold in the states? they've already done the research on it using women from something like five countries, which means health specialists have known about this shit for a long time! and the general public knows very very little about it.

i asked another specialist about this and she said it's too expiremental, i'm like wtf -- people are catching something that causes cancer. to me this is a feminist issue on the level exceeding the pill. i'm like women can not afford to fuck or even fuck around -- it's transmitted by skin to skin contact and three out of four americans have it, i mean do the math, how many of our fuckers, myself included are going to be getting their reproductive organs chopped and blocked

and here's the thing that really gets me -- they'll as in my female gyno! female! would do an expiremental surgery on me without telling me that i can't have kids as easily afterwords, they took a chunk out of my cervix, now to have kids i'll have to have another surgery, and they didn't tell me before they performed the surgery -- yet they won't give young women an expiremental vaccine that has been tested. fucking bizarre

fucking around to me now is like fuck that, yeah, i like you so much i'm going to give you cancer.
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i don't thinke merck has anything to do with it. I worked on an ad campaign for hpv awareness. they are ready to push this vaccine
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then what's the hold up?
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I dunno - it is experimental, so that means people who do have it are being paid to get it... so really the FDA or whoever needs to approve it before they can push it. But from what I've heard they are ready to start pushing it
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"But from what I've heard they are ready to start pushing it"

yes, that's what bfj just said

ready to start pushing it, yes, right, sure, that's why they aired it on television months ago and then dropped it

they're not going to start pushing shit

why because of the abstinence issue i think -- when will this country ever fucking learn, the people here can't keep it in their pants, won't keep it in their pants, and won't fucking protect themselves from diseases, and then whine about health care costs -- we give ourselves cancer -- we're idiots.

this country sucks, marky, i'm back to leaving again. where's sloth?

women and men are allowed to get cancer here while we sit on a vaccine for it.

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In the US, for instance, religious groups are gearing up to oppose vaccination, despite a survey showing 80 per cent of parents favour vaccinating their daughters. "Abstinence is the best way to prevent HPV," says Bridget Maher of the Family Research Council, a leading Christian lobby group that has made much of the fact that, because it can spread by skin contact, condoms are not as effective against HPV as they are against other viruses such as HIV.

"Giving the HPV vaccine to young women could be potentially harmful, because they may see it as a licence to engage in premarital sex," Maher claims, though it is arguable how many young women have even heard of the virus.

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/mg18624954.500
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"A women's health specialist nurse at that"

you are a women's health specialist nurse

what exactly do you specialize in and what do you tell young women about hpv?
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in 2004, they new the vaccine worked -- it is now 2006

when pixie . . . when are they going to allow parents to protect their daughters from cervical cancer and sons from cancer of the penis -- that's you're job isn't it. to protect women's health. have you been lobbying like the christian coalition who has been trying to protect our modesty or have you been reading sylvia plath

what the hell is a fucking feminist studies / women's health care specialist whose repsonse to a vaccine for cervical cancer is "i dunno" or "i'm in a semi-committed relationship" and "we get checked" there is nothing that the two of you can do right now in this country to protect yourself from cancer of your reproductive organs

when are women who are supposed to be feminist and health care professionals going to get pissed off about this!

and, honey, i was married, it don't get more committed than that.
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pixie, you can tell your young female patients that the middle of 2006 is when they are saying the FDA could approve the vaccine, and it is a good idea to let all those who are in control of legalizing this substance know that it's in our best interest to do so, especially if they read about the cost of cancer treatment:

Representative Ring asked when this vaccine may be approved by the FDA. Dr. Shaw answered that
Merck had filed the chemistry manufacturing and preclinical section with the FDA in September, 2005;
the studies are now being written up for submission and Merck hopes to have those studies in by
December, 2005, and the FDA has said they would give this a priority review given the novelty and
importance of this vaccine. If all goes well, Dr. Shaw predicted that a license will be available toward
the middle of 2006 for this cervical cancer vaccine.

http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/sessio ... 011min.pdf
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sorry, i've taken over this thread pixie, really, this whole thing just disgusts me.

they've known since 2002 in the us that the vaccine was 100 percent effective according to one article.

all of the articles say pretty much the same thing, it's effective with two strands hpv 16 and 18 over and over again, and yet, they keep needing more tests.

in 2002 they said it was 100 % effective, that was four years ago, how many young people have contracted hpv 16 and 18 in the last four years.

they've known since 2002!

that's what i would call immoral.
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Post by marky »

Wow. I didn't even have the time to read more than a fraction of this at work today.

First off, I am puzzled too by Pixie's assertion that she is a women's health specialist nurse. During our phone conversations I don't remember her saying this, so I wonder if she was talking about someone else??

I am glad we are hearing from Pixie though I had begun to worry that she had left us. Sorry about the ankle, too. I've had more ankle injuries in my lifetime than I care to talk about. I'm amazed that my right one will even work properly now. Yes alcohol was to usually to blame, but the last time it happened was a particularly difficult time in my life too. Maybe the worst time of my life. The good thing is that I have developed a really split second reflex action any time my ankle is compromised now. If I'm just walking along the street and something goes wrong BLAM! it's like a hand on a hot plate, it goes right past my conscious brain and I let go of the weight on that foot immediately, thank god.

I have not ever heard of this hpv before which may be because I don't read the papers anymore, but it does make me feel better for my celibacy/abstinance however you choose to say it. The hpv sounds really awful. I don't know what to say about it except that I like to see Sarah all fired up about issues that matter.

I remember maybe...6 months ago a friend forwarded something to me about some other kind of vaccination or something fuck I can't remember but it was to do with children, she was worried about her kid. And it was another case where it seemed there was a cover up or a delay to do with the FDA whatever. So I immediately wrote one of my congresswomen (we have two now - may I boast?) and asked her to do something about it, then I promptly forgot what exactly the issue was.

Another thing is I keep wondering why there seems to be a flu vaccine shortage every year the last two years. Not very funny for a few of my clients who were elderly, mentally compromised folks. I remember one in particular was very scared about it.

Do I believe evil exists in these matters? Yes I do. That's all I can really say. And Mav, as much as I love and respect you as a friend, I think your pie-in-the-sky dreams of America have nothing but rotting quicksand beneath them. One cannot always assume good in the face of evil.

And yes I know Nietszche says there is no good and no evil but you know what I mean. The machine that is supposed to help us is harming us.
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"but it does make me feel better for my celibacy/abstinance however you choose to say it."

you've got to be kidding me right, "feel better" you should feel like THE MAN -- especially on this website, no offense, but that's impressive. i mean that's really really impressive -- good for you! truly

i feel like a mom saying this, but that's the kind of thing women really do admire, how many women have told you that? probably a lot. i hope so. that's truly something special!
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