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Marriage comes with all sorts of varying degrees of commitment I've noticed (Let's NOT go into why I'm jaded but c'est la vive!)

I am a women's health specialist. I worked for nearly three years in a free women's clinic in North St. Louis (which is not a terribly nice place to be) and have seen shit you wouldn't believe and things I'm still working on how one might get that ... like the syphillis in the eye ... ummm... still can't figure it out.
However, I am at the moment back in school but at my bf's mum's insistance kept my liscense as an RN though I'm not practicing (she has a point - I do enjoy my nonclinic work). I work with the few local midwives in assisting them and on breaks usually help out at a birthing center in the Ozarks. I for the most part, delever babies, help mothers at home with the care of newborns and stress of newly found motherhood, and issues of pregnancy. I enjoy this work much more - I don't find it so emotionally demanding and draining as working with god knows what ... and am no longer afraid that I'll be shot driving home from work (okay I never worried about that - but my friends and family who did are now all heaving sighs of relief)
So unfortuantely, as I and my currant partner are not connected with it, neither of us spend much time researching it. I would assume that the hold up has to do with money - it usually does. That's as far as access goes. Of course the campagins are held up due to abstience only etc. etc. However - MTV and a few other corporations (is that the right term... I think probably not) rarely abide by the "rules" laid out. They're just slow and cumbersome.

Marky, I'm glad we share ankle injuries. I am rather used to hurting it but I've actually really done it this time ... and I was not drunk or even high. I happened to trip on the stairs of all things. I knew as soon as I looked down at the way my ankle was turned that this would be a problem - but I'm always bad at being the patient and letting people take care of me. The whole me not being able to walk or drive or anything is probably absolute hell on J who has to deal with my frustrations since he's the only one who comes to see me. My roommate and her man are it seems permenetly detained at her parents place.

and I am sort of lost on the threads now but that might be the painkillers working.
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As I was thinking about work in the clinic and out ... cancer and hpv are not really the biggest concerns for me or those I work with ...
As for the midwives, their biggest problems are in dealing with what to do with babies and mothers addicted to drugs like meth and fetal alcohol synd. As well as educating women that there are STDs at all that require special tests to detect and are imporant - and simply convincing some of these crazy women to get them. I mean, maybe it's just the area but there are women who don't see drs for anything and believe that everything is "god's plan" ... okay so that makes me cringe and want to shake them or something but ... I really can't see any sort of education of campagin doing any good in this sort of weird situation. That's not that it shouldnt' be attempted but there is a larger way of thinking that needs to be changed - how does one change that?
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Well okay Sarah but you're embarassing me now! He heh. Look I'm not the only one, I read an article recently about the singer of Weezer being celibate - or it was some guy from Weezer, I'm not sure if he was the singer, exactly. He said he'd been celibate for a year, two years? I can't remember.

Also Morrissey used to make mention of celibacy in interviews. Not sure where he stands about it nowadays, but the interesting thing is he actually already has a title for his next album which is due by mid 2006. At least that's the gossip.

Pixie, misery loves company, bless your ankle from my ankled experience. right, is this 1967? Is McCutcheon a hippie after all? Why is hippie bandied about nowadays as a bad word?

Sorry I'm off topic I know. God I'm tired. It's almost 4 am. This partying really takes a lot out of you.
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pixie, i'm sorry if i was hard on you. it sounds like the work that you do and have done is very beneficial to women.

you will be connected with it i'm afraid. when's the last time you had a pap smear? did you have any abnormal cells? that's hpv. that's what they call it, abnormal cells, dysplasia, etc. it's not just abnormal cells, it's the result of a sexually transmitted virus that is preventable.

you're loved ones are worried about you getting shot, you've got a much higher risk of getting this particular type of cancer, in fact, if you're sexually active, it's going to be virtually impossible for a while not to get, it's just the way the exponential growth of this kind of disease works when there is no prevention for it available.

for instance in my group of female friends, there are seven of us of that are pretty close, three out of the seven have already been diagnosed dysplasia (caused by hpv) and had surgeries in the past two years, and one's sister has. i'm the oldest. and none of us have had the same sexual partners. and i've only had two. one that i was married to and one that i was involved with for about five years, actually for longer than that. i mean these were commited relationships. the problem is hpv is spread by skin to skin contact, so you get to rubbing around or whatever you've got it, and that's all folks! you rubbed on somebody when you were thirteen and now you've got it -- it's dormant for years and then boom you've got cancer cells.

i'm just very angered by the lack of information women, especially young are given about this particular disease -- it is the number one fastest growing std in the united states. and s two strands of it are preventable.

i want really really want us to get the vaccine for it on the market asap.

2002 was a long time ago.

i just talked to a woman on another site who had to have all of her reproductive organs removed because of hpv --

Mark, i know about the weezer guy, he's fantastic, i love him. i think it's great! if you want to destroy my sweater, pull this string as i walk away, i mean somebody's got to be doing some serious celebacy or something to come up with that line.
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... I definately forgot what I was going to say now since it just took me four tries to log in ... Geeze.

Anyway - my last pap smear was normal - and I'm sincerly looking forward to not having another for a year! (Does it HAVE to be so uncomfortable. I'm convinced it doesn't but my dr takes some sadistic pleasure in it.)

But I find it really amusing for some reason that a memeber of Weezer is celibate. I love Weezer. Hehe ... I even bought their new album though I was not impressed with the single "Beverly Hills" wasn't it? I like the video they're playing on MTV now though - I think it's much better.
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yes, so was mine. that's very good to hear. especially that you won't have to have another for a year. that's a good sign always.

someone else gave me the name of the folks that i can write to to try to help push through the legislation or whatever it takes faster.

if you'd like to know who to write to i'll pass on the information. if not, okay.
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i changed my mind, i'm just going to put the information and a link about it here. if you ever want to write to the folks who are in charge of some of the decisions on whether or not we get this vaccine any time soon, here's where you can go.

so if you'd like to write to contact them, here's a starting point:

Debra Younginer
Executive Secretary
Breast and Cervical Cancer Early Detection and Control Advisory Comitee
Division of Cancer Prevention and Control
National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion
CDC
4770 Buford Highway
Mailstop K-57
Chamblee, Georgia 30316
(770) 488-1074

http://www.fda.gov/OHRMS/DOCKETS/98fr/05-23372.pdf
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Well I liked some of the first Weezer album, then didn't like their second one, then lost track after that. I know a guy from Weezer did that Rentals thing later, though maybe '91 or '92 very anglophile sort of release. I think it even had someone from Lush on it. But I don't own it.
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i liked the whole first album -- the blue i guess is the first album, if not that's the one i like, the rest not so much.

this is strange, but the cdc did not email me back, not that that is strange, but what is is that Dr. James Dobson who is i think a conservative minister knows about HPV and a Berkley study on it and other people don't. I mean it is incredibly strange. Because here I was ranting about HPV and the lack of national attention to it on what Friday or Saturday?

and now I'm looking at Sunday's paper and front page of the E section:

Advice -- "Focus on the Family"
HPV epidemic plagues young people

someone wrote in and asked if he'd heard of it, and he's like yeah, in 1992 they did a study at Berkley of blah,blah,blah, etc. etc. etc. . . . don't have sex condoms don't protect a person from HPV . . .

strange!
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str wrote: why won't they allow the vaccine to be sold in the states?
While on the subject of books to read, I make a suggestion to both of you: Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States.

I'm most of you have already gazed on this tomb sometime around 18, but one can never be so sure. Str, you just seem too optimistic and believing in organizations of people driven more likely by greed and power than goodwill and citizenship.

Other literary plugs: Anything by Jeff Noon if you like (start with Vurt or Automated Alice), The Enormous Room by E.E. Cummings, Night of the Avenging Blowfish by John Welter (or other books by him)... I have so many suggestions as to how to bide your time.
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Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States.

i wrote a poem about him, johnny cash, and a sculptor named hc westermann. i'll find it and post it sometime

and thanks, i've read it, my brother's a history teacher.

thanks i've read cummings, i love cummings, i'm an english teacher

i love your picture i've got that in a collage i made

i am optimistic, i'm doomed to be i think. but you're right i give too much credit to the wrong people.

the only vonnegut i've read is sirens of titan ? and i've never heard of John Welter. That's a new one i'll have to try it.

about greed, yes i know, where's the hemp? :)
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oh, you said vurt not kurt, i'm speed reading and not doing a good job.

recommend away.

pixie, how's that ankle?
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"Str, you just seem too optimistic and believing in organizations of people driven more likely by greed and power"

that's had me wondering, where are the organizations of people driven by goodwill and citizenship?
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e.e. here's the poem. it's really bad, in no way reflects that ee cummings ever exsisted as it has a very bad rhyme scheme, but it was fun to write, which i think is the point of writing -- it was actually written in response to another person's much better poem entitled, america, you smoking bitch:


Root Beer and Real Men

JC, he wore the black for me.
And down in Mississippi
As an enlistee
And then sometime
Around 1953

He got a gun.
He learned to run.

After his world went round
He said, My boys
Don't take them guns to town.

Howard Zinn
One of the finest men,
I mean, hell, yeah
Can I get an A-men?

Used the GI Bill
Then taught
Guns ain't such a thrill.

Zen and Zinn --
Oh, thank the lord
For real men.
Just when I thought
I had lost them again

In my ear Pirsig said,
It's all in your head.
Korea and Chris,
I remember the dead.

And the one I like,
I mean, really, the most
Cause his ships are real
And don't carry no ghosts

Is HC Westermann,

A man with a plan.

What's in a name?
A man without shame.
A man who knew rightly,
Knew who to blame.

His sculptures, you see
Are like Noah's fine ark
Real as can be,
more bite and less bark.
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http://www.globalexchange.org/getInvolv ... ators.html

A Who's Who Guide to Where to Go to Fight, for Mark and E.E. and anyone else who's interested.

Who's working on it:
• Corpwatch
• Center for Corporate Policy
• Halliburton Watch
• Houston Global Awareness
• Wal-Mart Watch
• ACORN
• Business Ethics International
• Sierra Club
• Wake-Up Wal-Mart
• International Labor Rights Fund
• United Students Against Sweatshops
• Corporate Accountability International
• Food and Water Watch
• Stop Suez
• ACTUP: New York, Philadelphia, Paris
• Consumer Project on Technology
• Doctors Without Borders
• Generics Now
• Health GAP
• Interfaith Center on Corporate Responsibility
• Treatment Action Campaign
• Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids
• Essential Action
• Framework Convention Alliance
• World Health Organization
• Global Exchange
• International Baby Milk Action
• International Labor Rights Fund
• Food First
• GM Watch
• GRAIN
• India Resource Center
• Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy
• Landless Workers' Movement
• Organic Consumers' Association
• Via Campesina
• Brandywine Peace Community
• Center for Corporate Policy
• War Resisters League
• Bluewater Action Network
• Energy Action
• Jumpstart Ford, a coalition of Global Exchange, Rainforest Action Network and the Ruckus Society
• CorpWatch
• Amnesty International
• Jewish Voice for Peace
• Human Rights Watch
• US Campaign to End Israeli Occupation
• International Labor Rights Fund and the Law Offices of Cristobal Bonifaz are handling the Ecuadorians' suit, with help from EarthRights International, Amazon Alliance, and Friends of the Earth.
• Dow Accountability Network
• EarthRights International
• Vietnam Relief and Responsibility Campaign
• Fund for Reconciliation and Development
• The Vietnam Dioxin Collective
• International Campaign for Justice In Bhopal
• Students For Bhopal • Amnesty International-USA
• Greenpeace International
• Ecology Center
• Tittabawassee River Watch
• Beyond Pesticides
• Coke Watch
• Corp Watch
• India Resource Center
• Killer Coke
• Polaris Institute
• Public Citizen
• Students Against Sweatshops
• USLEAP
• Acción Ecológica
• Amazon Watch
• Amazon Defense Front
• Amnesty International
• Center for Constitutional Rights
• EarthRights International
• Human Rights Watch
• Oil Change International
• Oil Watch International
• Richmond Greens
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