The "Debate"

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Who won the 1st Presidential 'Debate'?

John Kerry
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The "Debate"

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I watched the whole thing I swear Bush is fucking a bad speaker and has no point to any of his arguments other than to obscure the actual facts.

Most thinking people could see this even if they tried to deny it.

It was the first good day for America in about eight years.
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"It's hard work."
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Post by Maverick »

Unfortunately, as bad of a speaker as Bush is, he has improved since the first election.

I keep hoping he'll just lose it and start snickering and say something that will wake people up, like "It doesn't matter whether you vote for me or not, my boys will rig the election so it looks like I won just like last time, so I don't even know why I'm bothering to come to these damn boring debates and trying to remember all that stupid information when I could just be snorting coke off of an underage hooker's tits while dick cheney gets a blowjob from an altar boy."
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Post by TragicPixie »

Kerry got annoying with that "I have a plan" and never elaborating crap ...
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Pixie, Bush was the one who stated he had a plan and never elaborated.

Kerry was the one who said he had a plan and then laid it out very simply and convincingly.

His plan was:

1. Hold a summit
2. Offer Reconciliation
3. Get the international community (the UN) involved

Bush is unwilling and incapable of any of the above
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Post by TragicPixie »

hmm... really? *blinks* oh well... not that the debates matter - I've just been told I can't vote so ... um fuck?
Typically, my state is one of the four you can't register online for - which sucks for me because now in order to vote I'll have to get a ride to my parent's place and such which I probably can't afford to do. :(
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Post by marky »

Mav, your post here is brilliant stuff.

I didn't have the option of watching the debate of course because I was in class. But I hear that the consensus is Kerry won. I also read that the theory is single women aren't connecting with Kerry for some reason. I say wooooah...let's not be on crack and vote for Bush, okay?

Also I don't know if anyone's seen Berkeley Breathed's Opus comic strip in the last Sunday paper but he really did a superb job of making a simple political point this time. He isn't always that good, I was proud of him. Very well done.
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Bush:

"It's hard work.

Now watch this [golf] shot."
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Anyone who hasn't seen Farenheit 9/11 warm up your VCRs for the October 10th release.
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pixie... go to www.michaelmoore.com

he has all the voter registration information online for each of the 50 states. You may still be eligable to register for absentee ballot in your parent's state

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october surprise?

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one down, and three or four more to go? i think edwards will not be as good as expected tonite, because he is not an experienced debater and cheney is, in comparison to bush, unfrazzonable. did i spell that right?

anyway. what i would like to have polled here is this: will there be an october surprise?

i doubt it, actually, for two reasons. first, bush would have to be as criminal as nixon to hold back osama if he already knew his whereabouts. well ok, he is as criminal as nixon but not as sly. and secondly, i think the cia is secretly hoping for bush to lose and would not play along with any real foul stuff benefiting him. so, what do you think?
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Post by Maverick »

why do you think the cia wants bush to lose? I'm sure his Daddy is still pretty connected with their current management, since he was once in charge. He must have some weight to throw around, even if they don't care for W.

I don't think there will be any stunning military surprises. Unfortunately, we seem incapable of making any major strides to win either psychologically or militarily....perhaps that is conclusive evidence that we've gone about it wrong. So, I hold out no faith that our military has accomplished any major goal and is just keeping it under wraps.
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my belief is based on the valery payne incident, but also on reported dismay at how the neocons mis-used intelligence. read all about it in the wsj. if you wish, i will look for quotables.
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Post by Maverick »

was she the woman who wrote some sort of tell-all book, and her husband got ousted from the CIA? If not, I don't remember who she is.
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I don't know how much these things count but after one pres and one vice pres the score is approx

90 - 10 to the democrat in the pres and

55 -45 to the democrat in the v pres.

It saddens me to say that having wanted J E to get the dem nomination it has been very depressing for me watching the debates. Johnny is from the south (as are all successful dem nominations Carter Clinton Gore - if you count the voters) He is not married to a multi billionaire etc and he is a fucking great trial lawyer. ergo he would have fucking twatted hucklebery bush 3 to fucking zip in the debates by an ungodly margin.

Did any of the Seattle crowd see the Guardian today. The greatest living Englishman in the puget sound area (Now that I have left) Johnathan Raban did an article about Bush. I encourage everybody to check it out. Raban knows his shit. Especially about the middle east.
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