That makes sense Leo, however this is Pax Acidus, where almost EVERY STINKING STORY AND POEM on the site glorifies drug use and the only consequence seems to be getting laid with models.
But I guess that's why you submitted the story here in the first place.
Hangovers are a bitch though. I definitely don't recommend daily excess for those over 30. I mean, when you feel you are gonna throw up all day at work it does not condition one to repeat. And its hard to say no to another hit, line, drinkie, whatever, when you are high and the music is thumping.
Anybody ever try that anti-hangover medication that is advertised so much lately? Just kidding.
New Philo Article
As for drugs causing evolution of the species... that sounds like Terence McKenna stuff. Are you on drugs or something? Wasn't Darwin a Brit? Drugs don't cause evolution, natural selection causes evolution. Drugs cause you to have sex with models. Oops, we went over that already. Personally, I'll take the sex with models over another thumb any day.
The whole Darwin/survival of the fittest thing is just a theory and nothing more despite everyone now thinking it is fact. There are huge holes in the fossil record which need be filled to prove this theory beyond doubt. I'm pretty convinced that animals evolve though and this can be seen amongst almost all species where local conditions have produced specific developments to the indiginus (sp?) life forms to suit their habitat.
Where I think drugs such as acid, mushrooms, cannabis and ecstacy have a part to play is in mental evolution. I have found that when talking to some random stranger it is possible to tell whether that person has ever taken ecstacy in the past fairly easily. This would suggest some kind of effect as a result of taking this drug. I'm not talking about the obvious mong-heads who have caned it far too hard but the genuine, easy going, affable and (most importantly) fresh-thinking people who have dabbled and taken on board their experiences.
Where I think drugs such as acid, mushrooms, cannabis and ecstacy have a part to play is in mental evolution. I have found that when talking to some random stranger it is possible to tell whether that person has ever taken ecstacy in the past fairly easily. This would suggest some kind of effect as a result of taking this drug. I'm not talking about the obvious mong-heads who have caned it far too hard but the genuine, easy going, affable and (most importantly) fresh-thinking people who have dabbled and taken on board their experiences.
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"The whole Darwin/survival of the fittest thing is just a theory and nothing more despite everyone now thinking it is fact."
Now, this is not a science board, but there are two things wrong with your statement, and I assume when you say "Darwin/survival of the fittest thing" you are also refering to evolution.
One, "just a theory" has substantial credibility being that the main premise of a theory is to try and disprove it. Start with a null hypothesis and keep working up or down, depending on your observations. The theory of evolution and natural selection is still a topic because it has not been disproved, which merits respect.
Two, "despite everyone now thinking it is fact" is absurd. You have no statistics to back that claim and I'm willing to bet that more of the world's population would rather believe in a God/creator and afterlife rather than one's ass evolving from the flipper of a fucking porpoise and ending up in eternal darkness.
But as far as mental evolution coinciding with drug use, now you have touched on something very interesting. And as Sloth mentioned before, it sounds like Terrence Mckenna stuff. Perhaps you should check him out, he echoes your sentiments. Briefly, he thinks that early hunter and gatherers would eat mushrooms, hallucinate, feel an explosion of creativity building up in their minds, and that's how the cultural technology of art was founded. And he also believed that humans stopped evolving when they stopped eating mushrooms in vast quantities.
Now, this is not a science board, but there are two things wrong with your statement, and I assume when you say "Darwin/survival of the fittest thing" you are also refering to evolution.
One, "just a theory" has substantial credibility being that the main premise of a theory is to try and disprove it. Start with a null hypothesis and keep working up or down, depending on your observations. The theory of evolution and natural selection is still a topic because it has not been disproved, which merits respect.
Two, "despite everyone now thinking it is fact" is absurd. You have no statistics to back that claim and I'm willing to bet that more of the world's population would rather believe in a God/creator and afterlife rather than one's ass evolving from the flipper of a fucking porpoise and ending up in eternal darkness.
But as far as mental evolution coinciding with drug use, now you have touched on something very interesting. And as Sloth mentioned before, it sounds like Terrence Mckenna stuff. Perhaps you should check him out, he echoes your sentiments. Briefly, he thinks that early hunter and gatherers would eat mushrooms, hallucinate, feel an explosion of creativity building up in their minds, and that's how the cultural technology of art was founded. And he also believed that humans stopped evolving when they stopped eating mushrooms in vast quantities.
I don't think the theory of evolution is rubbish or the theory of God creating the world the same but I don't subscribe to either of these theories fully (or any other) as there is no full proof evidence. The point I meant to make is that nobody knows for certain how we have got to where we are today.
What's worrying is that there are many people who think that all the answers have been found with to regard to where we came from. If they'll believe these stories what else are they capable of deluding themselves about? (Fire and brimstone Revelations ending to bible is slightly worrying given the US government are all fundamentalist Christians etc...)
Terence McKenna sounds interesting - will look him up. Bill Hicks also used this idea in his routines and he is the one who influenced me into thinking this was a distinct possibility.
What's worrying is that there are many people who think that all the answers have been found with to regard to where we came from. If they'll believe these stories what else are they capable of deluding themselves about? (Fire and brimstone Revelations ending to bible is slightly worrying given the US government are all fundamentalist Christians etc...)
Terence McKenna sounds interesting - will look him up. Bill Hicks also used this idea in his routines and he is the one who influenced me into thinking this was a distinct possibility.
Sloth, I'm gonna see if I can find a duck-billed platypus this weekend to discuss these things with. I'll bet they're great to get stoned with.
The main thing I was going to say was I think DJLeo has a point: a lot of people just fall into a set way of thinking about things and assume that the Darwin theory is a fact simply because it's well known and no one has come along to disprove it. (Of course I mean non-religious types) There's a Nietzsche quote about this phenomenon, too, but I don't have it handy right now.
The main thing I was going to say was I think DJLeo has a point: a lot of people just fall into a set way of thinking about things and assume that the Darwin theory is a fact simply because it's well known and no one has come along to disprove it. (Of course I mean non-religious types) There's a Nietzsche quote about this phenomenon, too, but I don't have it handy right now.
the lost boy
we still don't know where we came from or how we came to be what we are now but what startles me more is where are we actually headed to? this is our greatest tragedy, we are faced with questions of where we came from and where this life will lead us to. life is indeed a sexually transmitted disease...
Amen, brother.
The chasm, of course, is between intelligence and instincts. My ego says I am not just an animal. I am more than just instincts. I can act rationally, from logic. But is intelligence in the end just a useless byproduct of evolution? Can intelligence ever really overcome instinct? Is the hippie dream of peace and love the world over just the most naive and stupid thing ever?
I could go on, but I've already said too much. Life is indeed: a sexually transmitted disease.
The chasm, of course, is between intelligence and instincts. My ego says I am not just an animal. I am more than just instincts. I can act rationally, from logic. But is intelligence in the end just a useless byproduct of evolution? Can intelligence ever really overcome instinct? Is the hippie dream of peace and love the world over just the most naive and stupid thing ever?
I could go on, but I've already said too much. Life is indeed: a sexually transmitted disease.