Rumsfeld's Foot In Mouth

marky · Post by **marky** » Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:30 am

From Tuesday's Seattle Times...

U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has won this year's "Foot In Mouth" award from Britain's Plain English Campaign with this statement:
"Reports that say something hasn't happened are interesting to me, because as we know, there are known unknowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."
John Lister, spokesman for the campaign that strives for straightforward public information, said: "We think we know what he means. But we don't know if we really know."

Tommy Martyn · Post by **Tommy Martyn** » Sat Dec 06, 2003 5:22 am

Actually the first time I read about this I thought it was very good. In the world of espionage with its bluff and counter bluff and double agents etc it made sense.

Back in the real world I think it has currency in describing human relationships. Especially in that first thrill of falling in love. Where your emotions make you take risks on relative strangers. Of course that was all a long time ago for me so maybe I'm remembering it all wrong.

marky · Post by **marky** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:25 am

Tommy I dare say you're taking the piss once again the way you do. It's funny.

Write more on this, please. Hope Sloth reads what you wrote.

Tommy Martyn · Post by **Tommy Martyn** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 6:48 pm

No really, I'm serious. I have seen this quote chopped up and used in a poem. (Published in Harper's magazine earlier this year. I think) I just loved it. Thinking about it now it, really does remind me of the day I stood at the front of the church and said, "I do." Unknown unknowns. That is the bit about marriage you have to find out for yourself. What Rummy is on about I haven't the foggiest but he was the catalyst for for many a rummination for me.

Simon Rex · Post by **Simon Rex** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:38 am

Did you make them up for each other?

Marky. Slothers. McCutcheon. Rosie the twat.

How very enchanting.

Post by **Sloth** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:14 am

Simon I dreamt you gave me head last night.

You were better than the Mexicans.

Simon Rex · Post by **Simon Rex** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:27 pm

I'm sorry, Mr. Sloth, sir. I don't give head to fat, hairy, lazy, drugged up, drunken, lazy men. I'll leave that to Matty. Give him a quarter, I'm sure he'll ablige. No, make that a nickel.

Post by **Sloth** » Sat Dec 13, 2003 12:56 am

Simon Rex, you name yourself after a rent boy actor and you are nothing but a wanking flamer intent on upsetting us and ruining the board.

I am not going to waste my time any more trying to figure out who you are.

And besides I'm not fat, I'm big boned.

marky · Post by **marky** » Sat Dec 13, 2003 3:50 am

Is Simon Rex the new Tommy? I mean, the old Tommy? I mean, he's what Tommy used to be for the board, right?

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Rumsfeld's Foot In Mouth

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Rumsfeld's Foot In Mouth

You all have cute little nicknames.