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so i've been thinking about you. even though i don't know you . . . do you tommy/tony want to live without your wife, tracy/mrs. tommy?
"I would never restrict any access Mrs Tommy wants - as long as she doesn't go off on a drinking binge like she did recently. And that's about it." i am not going to pry and you most certainly can ignore me, in fact i'd almost encourage it because i'm about to be crossing a line that i don't think i should, but that is not it, and i am sure that there are things that i don't know, and i don't want to know
but most of these pictures that you've posted recently have had her name on them . . . and it just makes me wonder why . . . in all these years that you've been posting here, in this one, this year, you figured out how to post your wife's pictures -- i mean, honestly, i was like wow, tommy is happier in his marriage than he's ever been, look he's posting all his wife's pictures. . . so i was wrong, but i just don't think a man goes through posting his most recent vacation with his family who doesn't want to hold on to his family . . . i mean you all are cute, but i don't think you did that for our entertainment. i really don't. . .
and why would this woman who thought enough of you to want a baby with you not too long ago now want to divorce you?
anyway in a weird cyber way, much love to you all, your whole family. i hope everything turns out okay. if there's anything i can do, do let me know. i'll be thinking about you all.
"I would never restrict any access Mrs Tommy wants - as long as she doesn't go off on a drinking binge like she did recently. And that's about it." i am not going to pry and you most certainly can ignore me, in fact i'd almost encourage it because i'm about to be crossing a line that i don't think i should, but that is not it, and i am sure that there are things that i don't know, and i don't want to know
but most of these pictures that you've posted recently have had her name on them . . . and it just makes me wonder why . . . in all these years that you've been posting here, in this one, this year, you figured out how to post your wife's pictures -- i mean, honestly, i was like wow, tommy is happier in his marriage than he's ever been, look he's posting all his wife's pictures. . . so i was wrong, but i just don't think a man goes through posting his most recent vacation with his family who doesn't want to hold on to his family . . . i mean you all are cute, but i don't think you did that for our entertainment. i really don't. . .
and why would this woman who thought enough of you to want a baby with you not too long ago now want to divorce you?
anyway in a weird cyber way, much love to you all, your whole family. i hope everything turns out okay. if there's anything i can do, do let me know. i'll be thinking about you all.
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No need to worry. This isn't hurricane Katrina. It is a story that plays out thousands of times everyday. I don't want to diminish the impact it may have on my children. It breaks my heart to think of them upset, but the rest of it is just a storm in a teacup.
Times change, people change. It is bizzare to think of the future. For so long I have pictured me and Tracy in rocking chairs somewhere and now that isn't going to happen. Where did the future go? In a way it's exciting. Although, I don't want you to think I'm sat here looking at divorce as an opportunity. What it is going to be most of all, is hard work.
Tracy is away on business at the moment, so last night I was sat on a big bed reading stories while little people climbed all over me. I couldn't help thinking that, for an ugly bloke with minimal social skills,this wasn't a bad life at all.
All I have to do is find a job that fits in around the kids and bingo!
I will say this though. It is a good feeling to know that people are "out there" caring about you. I appreciate that.
Times change, people change. It is bizzare to think of the future. For so long I have pictured me and Tracy in rocking chairs somewhere and now that isn't going to happen. Where did the future go? In a way it's exciting. Although, I don't want you to think I'm sat here looking at divorce as an opportunity. What it is going to be most of all, is hard work.
Tracy is away on business at the moment, so last night I was sat on a big bed reading stories while little people climbed all over me. I couldn't help thinking that, for an ugly bloke with minimal social skills,this wasn't a bad life at all.
All I have to do is find a job that fits in around the kids and bingo!
I will say this though. It is a good feeling to know that people are "out there" caring about you. I appreciate that.
No, it's not hurricane Katrina, that was Michael Brown's fault, and somehow it makes it easier when it's someone in the government's fault . . .
So excitement, I think it's okay to want that; I mean there just aren't any rules about this stuff, not really, it's your decision, nobody else's and no one else's place to judge. I would not feel the least bit bad about feeling some sense of happiness or fun or whatever you need to feel, god knows if the two of you have been together since 92, you tried.
So I'm off to Raleigh tonight and the beach tomorrow, which has nothing to do with your divorce, your wife, your kids or your religion or lack of religion. It does have to do with spending the weekend with a guy who's not my husband. Of course, he's very not interested in women other than shopping, clubbing, eating, and decorating with them, and he figured out what sloth just posted about females by the age of sixteen. Really, I would not marry a woman either, this is just based on my knowledge of myself. If I had to decide between me and the hubby as a mate, I'd pick the hubby, he's just better all around
So excitement, I think it's okay to want that; I mean there just aren't any rules about this stuff, not really, it's your decision, nobody else's and no one else's place to judge. I would not feel the least bit bad about feeling some sense of happiness or fun or whatever you need to feel, god knows if the two of you have been together since 92, you tried.
So I'm off to Raleigh tonight and the beach tomorrow, which has nothing to do with your divorce, your wife, your kids or your religion or lack of religion. It does have to do with spending the weekend with a guy who's not my husband. Of course, he's very not interested in women other than shopping, clubbing, eating, and decorating with them, and he figured out what sloth just posted about females by the age of sixteen. Really, I would not marry a woman either, this is just based on my knowledge of myself. If I had to decide between me and the hubby as a mate, I'd pick the hubby, he's just better all around
I felt kindof like you this morning Sarah, having bad feelings about Tommy's divorce and realizing it just wasn't my place to judge. It's very hard for me to understand people being together that long and there being small children involved and then suddenly one day just walking out of it. Some part of me feels like by that point it oughta be hey, tough shit, deal with it, you know? But I also know it's not that simple and again, it isn't my place to judge.
Anyway, best of luck, Tommy.
Anyway, best of luck, Tommy.
I have a couple married friends with children who are breaking up. It's nothing new. It's just that it's happening to my friends kids now instead of my friend's parents.
To suffer for the sake of children is a noble cause in theory but often the suffering is much worse when the children know their parents hate each other and to see them fight.
It's better to just pretend that divorce is a normal part of life (which it seems to be) and get on with it.
The worst part about it seems to be the cost involved for two dwellings, and the children's awakening they can play their parents off each other. But with lots of money who really cares.
So Tommy, what's you next career move? Any ideas?
To suffer for the sake of children is a noble cause in theory but often the suffering is much worse when the children know their parents hate each other and to see them fight.
It's better to just pretend that divorce is a normal part of life (which it seems to be) and get on with it.
The worst part about it seems to be the cost involved for two dwellings, and the children's awakening they can play their parents off each other. But with lots of money who really cares.
So Tommy, what's you next career move? Any ideas?
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Have been talking to a few faces about jobs. There are two ways to go on this. Go for the money or go for the kids. Going for the money means getting a nanny or some sort of childcare. AND hoping the children are getting the care and attention they need. Going for the kids means taking a job where don't work long hours or have to carry a phone and be on call while I'm at home or not getting fired because I have to take time offf work when the kids are ill.
Fucking hell! I'm a fucking single parent!
Fucking hell! I'm a fucking single parent!
Wow Tony. I saw this yesterday, and didn't respond right away, because I didn't know what to say. SLoth said it best, I hope it works out the best for all of you.
There is no sense in "staying together for the kids". THat just makes everyone miserable, including and especially the kids. I suspect that you and Tracy know what is best for all of you, and that no matter what has happened to pull the two of you apart, the common ground is love for the kids, and a desire to see them grow up as happy and supported as they can. I'm very sorry to hear that things have gone wrong, but I do hope that you can start an interesting and rewarding next phase of life. I'd give you some career advice if I knew anything besides periodically acting in low-paying stuff and working at a day job that allows me to periodically act in low-paying stuff. I'll be curious to hear about what you settle on. Keep posting when you can.
In opposition to this relationship that has been going on since 1992 breaking up, some of you may (or may not) have heard that my relationship with my Tracy (also since 1992) is finally going to the next level. We're getting mattied next year. The cycle of life, I guess.
There is no sense in "staying together for the kids". THat just makes everyone miserable, including and especially the kids. I suspect that you and Tracy know what is best for all of you, and that no matter what has happened to pull the two of you apart, the common ground is love for the kids, and a desire to see them grow up as happy and supported as they can. I'm very sorry to hear that things have gone wrong, but I do hope that you can start an interesting and rewarding next phase of life. I'd give you some career advice if I knew anything besides periodically acting in low-paying stuff and working at a day job that allows me to periodically act in low-paying stuff. I'll be curious to hear about what you settle on. Keep posting when you can.
In opposition to this relationship that has been going on since 1992 breaking up, some of you may (or may not) have heard that my relationship with my Tracy (also since 1992) is finally going to the next level. We're getting mattied next year. The cycle of life, I guess.
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Well, there is a lot to be said for keeping your kids happy and secure during the fragile and formative times. Being married isn't like dating and being married with children is different again. What that means in practice depends on who is doing the marrying. I'm a grim, stoic northerner. I never give up. Tracy wants another shot at making herself as happy as she can be. Good luck to her. Personally, I think she should put the kids first. Still, I'm sure she has talked this over with her boyfriend and they have decided what is best for my kids. So on that score, fuck them.
Mav, you really are the most pleasant of humans. (Dare I say, because you were the product of two great parents. Say hello to them from me.) Tracy is great too, and as McC, Sloth and I can attest, really filthy when you are out of town. I wish you all the love and happiness in the world. Now I have to get logged back on to www.cincydirtydads,com
Mav, you really are the most pleasant of humans. (Dare I say, because you were the product of two great parents. Say hello to them from me.) Tracy is great too, and as McC, Sloth and I can attest, really filthy when you are out of town. I wish you all the love and happiness in the world. Now I have to get logged back on to www.cincydirtydads,com
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Actually I recall the title now: At War With the Mystics
Yeah the new Flaming Lips. Have you heard it McC? I haven't but my intuition is telling Mav to buy this CD. For no reason. Go fuckin' figure as listen to my Donovan and Carly Simon early 70's folky records.
Sorry, keep talking folks you're doing a great job...
Yeah the new Flaming Lips. Have you heard it McC? I haven't but my intuition is telling Mav to buy this CD. For no reason. Go fuckin' figure as listen to my Donovan and Carly Simon early 70's folky records.
Sorry, keep talking folks you're doing a great job...