Led Zeppelin are probably better than the Beatles

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Punk is now 30 years old isn't it? Or is 1977 the year of punk? This has actually been bothering me lately. I need someone to answer the question is 1976 the year of punk or is it 1977? Yeah it bothers me.

But not so much that I can't put on another record.
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Know what makes Paxicidus cool? The black background, man.
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Look if you don't like my writing, it's all downhill from here because as I have said before, the other board is down, and these musical questions which might have been answered very easily outside of Paxacidus are suddenly hung like giant frozen questionmarks in my life. It's not my fault. I saw threads about it going down but I know nothing if whether it is coming back or we are doomed. There's a guy in Britain - I don't have his email address. What if I never hear from him again... etc.

Okay but in any case I plan to move on to the subject of the new Ian Curtis book which I planned to earlier. But unfortunately it's time to go to bed. And I'm too tired anyway, so you can feel free to start a thread for the Ian Curtis book if you want to, McC, because if you don't then I will. I had about a paragraph's worth to say about it at this juncture. See you later when I'm awake and not at work.
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As I walked to the bus stop this morning to go to work, it just so happened that my very favourite song from the entirety of Led Zeppelin's classic dbl LP "Physical Graffitti" was blaring outside some big redneck truck or other. I didn't give a crap about the truck, just the fact that I was hearing a song that once meant a lot to me, about 10 years ago. After all, the song is called

"Ten Years Gone".
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The crazy thing about Zeppelin is not just that they're remembered 30-40 years after the fact by so many, but that they will also be so in another 10 years.
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Sorry I really will get over the Zeppelin thing eventually here. I can't see doing a 20 year anniversary with them the same way I'm feeling a 10 year one right now.

But it's all because New Order BLOODY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO A NEW ALBUM THIS SUMMER BUT THEY LIED LIED LIED LIED BECAUSE THE NEW IAN CURTIS FILM THEY ARE DOING THE MUSIC fOR THAT SO OH MY GUFFING FOD!!!!
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Never mind, this is a Zeppelin thread and it's gonna stay one. I will damn well remain on topic in this part of paxacidus damnit I will remain on topic. I will do it here like I've never done before. This is a goddamn Zeppelin thread and I will not be derailed.

Here is what the Presence sleeve looks like. It's funny to see it on vinyl used and not be able to figure out what band does it. Kindof like that Pink Floyd sleeve where the man is in a suit that's on fire while he's shaking another man's hand who's also in a suit. Isn't that a Pink Floyd sleeve? Yeah I think it is. Fuck all I know about Pink Floyd, obviously. Anyway...
Here's what the Presence sleeve looks like for Led Zeppelin and if you don't immediately want to own it on vinyl then you are a better person than me (seriously haven't you seen this record sleeve before while flipping through used vinyl?):



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Well I know, you're tired of hearing about Led Zeppelin, dead tired. But it's too bad. Because if you haven't heard the live version of "The Song Remains The Same" from the soundtrack of the same name then you simply can't have a valid opinion on them, as far as I'm concerned. I don't care if you have the version on Houses Of The Holy you do not understand the meaning of heaven (and timeless rock and roll) until you experience the live version of the song called "The Song Remains The Same" that appears on the live CD/VHS cassette tape of the same name.

Why? Because it sounds so ENGLISH, so OLDE TYME OLD FOLKY VILLAGEY OLDE ENGLISH!!!! And yet it's mixed with American music, fucking fantastic. It reminds me of the Smiths actually, that song.

And then they go into the live version of "Rain Song" which unfortunately always skips on my CD...boo hoo...the only way I can hear that version properly is on the video of Led Zeppelin's The Song Remains The Same. And that was the other song that really really killed me was the live version of Rain Song. I guess it's just as well my CD of it skips, it forces me to pull out and experience the video version when Robert Plant draws his sword at a guy for the drawbridge castle, or something fantastic like that. Olde English, yeah. There is a really cheap brand of liquor here called Olde English by the way because I love Americana mixed with a great big dose of Britannica. Then I can die happy. Anyone got any X?

Let's put on Happy Mondays and forget every embarassing thing I said tonight.

Except for the fact that I never mentioned the Fall which is grounds for a night out in the stockades, I imagine. It's only 1870 after all.
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You can be a Led Zeppelin virgin, or you can hear/see this:

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Oh my god people.

I'm gonna be so happy when I get off my drunk ass and pull out their VHS videocassette.

Even better is the fantasy I'm having that they must have reissued that CD in a much better CD case than the issue I have, and they must have done a remaster of it and I can buy a CD of it that won't skip because maybe Kate Bush loves me.
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Because of you Marky, I'm gonna get me some more Zep.
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Marky,

Try to get some of the other board people on this board. We need some fresh blood.
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We need more heartbeats.
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Hmm. Well that's a novel idea, Sloth, trying to recruit from over there to here. I agree we need new blood. I've always kindof enjoyed the separation between there and here, though. I can post crazy ass drunk stuff there to a point, but it's comforting to know I can always come here and post some TRULY crazy drunk shit without so many possible repercussions. And I like the fact that no one can link who I am here with who I am there (I go by a different nickname entirely). But in truth it's a pretty close knit bunch of people over there, and most of them aren't folks I take a liking to. Usually it only gets really interesting if the Brits are on or if some of the folks that don't post as much but are very knowledgeable and mature get on. Most of what is posted on that board is full on immaturity, really. Popularity contests, stupid jokes...It's funny for a while, but then it just gets smug and stupid, and above all, very boring. Most of the time it's like a bunch of young kids going "nah nah nah nah, I'm more cool than you" (head held high). But if all else fails, I've usually got a place I can go and talk about music, so that's why I need it. I don't have a lot of friends on there, though, and the few folks I have met here in town that are from that board did not impress me one bit, which is unfortunate. Anyway, I like the idea of recruiting, though...just not sure how to go about it or what the fallout might be for me. I'll think about it.

Now, back to Zeppelin. I really did want to say a few more things about their film The Song Remains The Same, which I did get off my drunk arse and find the videocassette of last night. I don't think I've watched it in 9 years and man, it just made me feel like a little kid, you know, like a little kid grins? It made me feel like that. So happy.

The Song Remains The Same is not actually strictly a concert film of them, though you fully expect that is what it will be. Instead sometimes after a bunch of concert action it will cut to these medieval skits and you'll see some girl in a castle and shit like that, or Robert Plant with a sword in a field or something, or a ship approaching shore etc. I think there are also some psychedelic visual effects if I recall correctly (you know, when the whole screen turns into an electric tie die or something). The great thing about this is it makes it a really fun, mindfuck thing to watch on acid or drugs in general. One guy I met at the time I first got into them told me it was played as like a midnight movie at the theater, you know, probably the same time as something like Rocky Horror Picture Show. You'd take drugs and go to this movie at the theater in the 70's.

A few other things I wanted to say about it is...god...Jimmy Page's jacket is just to die for isn't it? It's this black jacket, he wears no shirt underneath, and the arms have these dark red flowery patterns going down them. It seems like high fashion now, but imagine what it must have seemed like in 1973. That fucker was hip.

The other thing I wanted to mention was this one part I saw last night...it's while Page is playing a guitar solo, I can't remember if Plant is singing just then or not, but the camera goes to John Bonham, the drummer and it shows Bonham looking at John Paul Jones (bassist/keyboards, though he's playing bass at the time) and Bonham shakes his head at Jones like "naw, not here, I won't interrupt the brilliance of the music those two up there are making right now"...and you watch and wait as Bonham decides the time is right and starts up his drums. And then it's like it dawns on you that no it really ISN'T just Page and Plant that steal the show here, it's the fact that they had the best fucking rhythm section in the world backing them up, man. Jesus, did they not???!! Listen to John Paul Jones' bass on the song called "The Song Remains The Same" - is that not brilliance?

And you know I really do think they were better than the Beatles. I never thought I'd say that but I really think it's true. Because no one fucking talks about Ringo's drumming, do they? Sure, there's no God, Sloth, we all know that. But tell me who or what caused those 4 men in Led Zeppelin to ever be in the same room together, huh? Pure chance, I guess. Darn. Foiled again.
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EVERYBODY NEEDS A LIGHT! OOOOH YEAH EE YEAH!

In the light is in my head right now. From Physical Graffiti. And I can't control my brain.
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IT'S BECAUSE OF THE KEYBOARDS IT'S BECAUSE OF THE SOUND OF THE KEYBOARDS BY JOHN PAUL JONES WHEN ROBERT PLANT SINGS "OOH YEAH YEAH" LISTEN TO THE FUCKING KEYBOARDS!~
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