Survey

TragicPixie · Post by **TragicPixie** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:36 am

Okay yeah yeah I'm writing another paper and I need people to answer these questions (and I'll owe you one)

mmm if you do'nt wanna answer them here you can always e-mail me responses at tragicpixie(at)hotmail.com or call me and say you wanna do the survey thingie (314.479.4100)

but yeah, obviously, I'm desperate

In the following context the use of force does not necessarily have to have been/be a bad thing; but may be
1. Have you ever been forced into a sex act?
2. Have you ever forced someone into a sex act? Would you consider it?
3. Have you particpated in BDSM in ANY form (light spanking to the whole thing)?
4. Do you find BDSM in ANY form sexy?
5. Do you find missionary, "Vanilla" sex, sexy?
6. Do you find BDSM in any form normal?
7. Do you find women in weakened/abused states sexy (IE heroin chic, Kate Moss, Obsession Ads..)?
8. How many of such images do you see in a normal day?
9. Do you agree (even paritially with ANY of the statements below)
"She said no but she meant yes."
"Women like to be foreced and raped, and sexual violence and rape are sexy, stylish, elegant, and beautiful."
"Women are more attractive when they are submissive."
"No matter how assertive she may be in the world, her private submission to control is what makes her deseriable."
10. What is your age and gender?

Tommy Martyn · Post by **Tommy Martyn** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:53 am

If it is for school, I'm happy to help you out. Did you design the questions? Do you want yes or no answers?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:32 am

It is, I did, and yes, no, maybe or elaborate answers are fine.

Thanks. lol

Really the answers would be whatever you feel most comfortable with; as long as they're honest.

TragicPixie · Post by **TragicPixie** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:33 am

mm that was so me; time for more coffee (stupid studenty all-nighters)

Post by **Sloth** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:46 pm

1. Have you ever been forced into a sex act?
no.

2. Have you ever forced someone into a sex act? Would you consider it?
no no

3. Have you particpated in BDSM in ANY form (light spanking to the whole thing)?
yes

4. Do you find BDSM in ANY form sexy?
a little

5. Do you find missionary, "Vanilla" sex, sexy?
yes

6. Do you find BDSM in any form normal?
yes

7. Do you find women in weakened/abused states sexy (IE heroin chic, Kate Moss, Obsession Ads..)?
yes

8. How many of such images do you see in a normal day?
1 or 2

9. Do you agree (even paritially with ANY of the statements below)
"She said no but she meant yes."
"Women like to be foreced and raped, and sexual violence and rape are sexy, stylish, elegant, and beautiful."
"Women are more attractive when they are submissive."
"No matter how assertive she may be in the world, her private submission to control is what makes her deseriable."
yes

10. What is your age and gender?
34 male

Tommy Martyn · Post by **Tommy Martyn** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:24 am

Well,

I did the phone survey. Very enlightening. Wish I had more time to think about some of the stuff there Pixie. Hope the survey gives you enough data to work with. It would be interesting it you could keep us posted (by us I mean the board) about how it all goes.

Post by **mccutcheon** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:27 am

I called Pixie and she was having sex and couldn't talk to me. she wa tied up or something.

Tommy Martyn · Post by **Tommy Martyn** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:41 am

and I called you. Pick up your fucking phone.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:59 am

Tommy and Sloth thanks so much for helping me out

I'll be sure to post the stuff when I get it all into a coherent mass

MC I called you back (ohh feel lucky I don't call people) but you didn't pick up.

TragicPixie · Post by **TragicPixie** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:00 am

Um forgot to sign in again - sorry, not thinking. My finace sort of just broke up with me.

thank god I'm still numb. If I can be numb until exams I'll be ok.

Post by **mccutcheon** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:50 pm

you are engadged??? nooooo!!!! Look what happened to BFJ! Hell look at me in all my naked glory. Was he the boy you were having sex with when I called? Who calls me? Why dodn't I get these calls.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:21 pm

mmm he was not and thus the problem. and even though it's my fault, it still hurts. And I fucking didn't mean for it to happen it just happened. I'm an awful person.

TragicPixie · Post by **TragicPixie** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:48 am

http://www.livejournal.com/users/tragic ... 91122.html

Ok the pictures that support my thesis ...

This whole doing work thing isn't going so well.

sara · Post by **sara** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:21 pm

I think that the Story of O will support your thesis. Although I'm not all that sure what your thesis is. Like how you want to work it.

But it's the same idea. Male dominated society, beautiful women, subjugation . . . etc. If it doesn't, it's a hell of an interesting read. And it will definitely give you some food for thought on your next paper.

Good luck by the way.

sara · Post by **sara** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:08 pm

So I've done some thinking about this. And this is what I think. I hope you don't mind. It's your paper, your class, and your life. I really want you to understand that I respect that. But some things are just bothering me, and I guess it's using these guys as part of a research project. It may not bother them, that's fine. But it just doesn't sit well with me. I'm sorry. Really I apologize for sounding like a nanny.

So here are some secondary sources, that are sort of primary I guess, not as primary as a survey, but primary all the same.

I'll tell you why The Story of O is so important to our understanding of the place of the modern female. It is the same reason that Henry James' Portrait of a Lady is. Choice.

Both female characters have the choice whether to subjugate themselves or not, and they both chose to.

It is why I wrote a paper once explaining that the character from Kate Chopin's The Awakening understood more about what it means to be a woman than Isabel from Portrait of a Lady.

It is because when faced with no other choices, in a society that allowed her no freedom, Edith from The Awakening said, to quote Eddie Vedder, said, Fuck you. I am Mine. Then walked off into the ocean.

Not that I advocate suicide I certainly don't. But Isabel chose a much worse death in Portrait of a Lady. She killed her Ã¢â‚¬Å“self.Ã¢â‚¬? And there is a difference between that kind of suicide and Edith's.

O willfully chooses to kill her-self. She pursues it in the name of love.

To me that's not love. Love is freedom, and O gave that up.

And in the end, she's sitting there like a side-show freak at a party. Some exotic thing for people to prod, no more than a statue. No more than a run way model. Just like MC's model in Burnt (sorry I've forgotten her name -- and isn't that the way it goes.)

Every woman has the choice. I believe that Tom Robbins explains that in Still Life with Woodpecker. It's why a pack of cigarettes has the ability to transport a girl. Because she understands what the word choice means.

And that is the dilemma for modern people; all of the choices.

So there's the beginning of a topic. And how I would work Kate Moss into the dynamic of modern women -- she had a choice, she made it. If some men want to subjugate women as a result of what they see Kate Moss dressed in, then women can choose to leave them.

How I would use this website for research. I'd take a look at Burnt. MC really does have some fantastic female characters. Janice, Brit, they are really great examples of young women who struggle to find their place among young men, and who are very complex characters. In my opinion, those two female characters are two of his best -- props to whoever he modeled them after.

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