eatin' ain't cheatin'

martino · Post by **martino** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 5:17 pm

... at least, that's what your last president thought.

i myself am not so sure.

pax acidus: what do you think?

Post by **mccutcheon** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 5:33 pm

eatin' out is cheatin'

rabbit · Post by **rabbit** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 5:54 pm

im with mc on this one.

tashasimone · Post by **tashasimone** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 9:28 pm

eating out is definetly cheating, especially when it's fast food. Fine Dining is easier to deal with, in the long run.

Post by **mccutcheon** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 11:40 pm

I meant 'out' as away from home. but 'eatin' out' does it as well. Yummy? Gross? I don't know.

martino · Post by **martino** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 6:45 am

well thanks for the good moral guidance guys: i needed that.

just to be sure, let me confirm: you are saying that active consumption is bad, but that passive indulgence is OK.

does this apply to both sexes?

Post by **Sloth** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 4:59 pm

Eating out is cheating?

Does that mean if I get head I am cheating?

Or does that mean if I give head I am not cheating?

Martino you are too deep for me this morning!

Post by **mccutcheon** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 5:06 pm

Man, I think I know where you are going with this and you are gonna get your ass in trouble again. There is no way to avoid the double whammy of a double standard. But it is different. Chicks and dudes ain’t the same man. Isn’t it great! Yesterday I was walking down the street, and I was like, there are at least 50 girls I’d like to fuck out today. One thing about the Evil Heat- ASU has nice booty! But of course I never even talked to any of them and felt a bit slimy looking at them because deep down I knew they probably wouldn’t like me or I wouldn’t like them- even worse. So I just walked and looked and that was all. Hell, I don’t want a relationship I want sex because these girls in their tight shirt and tiny skirts look so good. But ya know we ain’t the same. Boys and girls, blue and pink. Maybe, maybe just one of those girls saw me and thought I was cute. Was their first impression to go straight to sex? I doubt it. And if it was, damn, I’m stooopid! I missed out and I’ll never know. Guys cheat and it is purely physical, they might not even know the girl, or even find her attractive. It’s just a put your cock somewhere to make your male ego feel like a man who is still important and can score some pussy. When girls cheat (at least the good ones- the ones who capture hearts it is…..all together now… “SEX STARTS IN THE MIND” and watch out. A girl (at least the good ones- the ones who win hearts and turn heads) might take longer to fall in love with you. She will also take longer to fall out of love with you. But damn man, when it’s over it will be over because she will have given more than you- she will have given her all. And you won’t be able to win her back. Then you will be in a world of pain, shame, the ego shattered, pride gone replaced by the bottle. Anyone stoopid enough to check the boundaries (beyond the theory of it- which I hope you are doing, Mr. Martino!!!!!) of cheating has already gone too far. And why is that, because they are being weak by looking for an excuse. But then again what the hell do I know? I’ve never been in love or had a broken heart. It just never happened to me.

And here is another thing. Would you rather the girl you love just fuck a guy, or only suck his dick. Think of that image a long time before you go to Taco Del Mar.

Post by **Sloth** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:10 pm

If you put it that way McCutcheon... Eating is indeed cheating!

The questions remains... is it okay to cheat?

And is sex better to think and fantasize about then to actually do?

Once I had a crush on a girl and I wanted to fuck her and then I found out she had a stinky pussy and then that killed it for me forever. If I had never gotten her drunk and taken off her clothes I might still have occasional masturbation fantasies about her.

But I am happily married now. I really am. Now I can eat and drink all I want and still get laid so why bother to even try. I still gaze lustfully at bars but some things never change.

Onwards to art which is better and more important than sex.

Post by **mccutcheon** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 9:03 pm

art is more important than death.

Post by **Sloth** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 10:53 pm

Gimme a choice between art and alcohol and I'll see you down the pub round 6.

So maybe alcohol is greater than death?

chthonic · Post by **chthonic** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 12:02 am

cheating.

it's hard to say "Don't cheat on me".
because no one ever listens to you.
they listen to themselves
to their dicks
their hearts - does that even matter? - their minds control the sex - because they can't control their dick. - is that how it works for men? i'm asking. you're given this weird flippy penis thing and figure out you have no control over the damn thing and then you are expected to go through life and "learn how to control yourself" - come on.

as if we all don't have enough to figure out.
i feel sorry for men at times.

men.
do you really want to control it?

what kind of man doesn't cheat?
what kind of man does?

Post by **mccutcheon** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 4:33 pm

I'd say everyone cheats. Last night I had a dream I cheated and woke up shocked until I figured out where I was. If it comes into your dreams it's hard to avoid. And see I've never been married so I don't know that mid (life) love dull lull, I don't know. You know if you are a kid and your dad leaves your mom for a chick almost as old as you and buys a sports car you are going to hate that fucker. My mom and dad are still together (I’m grateful I got cool parents who stuck it out and are still in love despite the problems they faced like every other couple- sometimes divorce and separation become trendy) but I can see how it can fuck you up. I’d hate someone like that. Maybe the trick is to not get into that position, where you hate your life so much that you have to do something as drastic as that to feel alive, I believe in being true to the people who stick by you, but does that pertain to sex? It doesn’t have to be some just unjust fuck. Or does it? I really don’t know. But I think if you lead a life you like it helps, like avoid being that person who works all year in a job they hate only to go on that wonderful two-week vacation. Try to be happy when you wake up.

as far as men go I think there is a primitive gusto there, a wild sex drive. I'm still as horny as a 18 year old kid, yet shy as fuck sometimes. it's scary.

martino · Post by **martino** » Sat Jan 18, 2003 3:28 pm

oh man, what an assembly of intruiging opinions. i think i touched a nerve here.

i have to agree with the remarkable mr mccutcheon: everyone cheats.

i mean, i don't want to get all jimmy carter on your ass but tell me: what kind of a guy does not lust in his heart for other women? (i'll tell you: a guy who is nad-dead because his overbearing mother gave him an over-strong conscience). so we are all sinners as such.

is it a big step from lusting in your heart to thinking of someone else while you are having sex? i think lots of women do this and i can't blame them.

is it really worse to give or receive an extra-marital passionate kiss?

moving on from a sexual kiss: is it much worse to accept the offer of a blowjob, let's say under intoxicated circumstances? is giving an impassionate kiss better than an unpassionate blowjob?

i think after a few years in a relationship (and i'm not talking about two months of marriage, ooh) the likelihood of sinning becomes monumentous. tasting danger and foreign flesh makes it easier to appreciate what one has. cheating is always bad but the alternative is not much better. having said that, of course i agree that being on the receiving end of a fellatio is not quite as cheatful as sticking one's tongue into a woman's holiest of holies.

Post by **mccutcheon** » Sat Jan 18, 2003 4:54 pm

fire and ice. this reminds me of hugh grant and liz hurely. when he got caught getting head from a skanky LA hooker I was like, what a fucking shmuck! (at the time i had a picture of Elizabeth in tight Clash Teeshirt and leather pants hanging on my wall.) i thought man, stoopid Hugh just blew it and is going to lose one of the hottest women walking the planet - she is also pretty cool as far as i know. anyway now I know something else, it doesn't matter how hot or how cool the person is you cheat on because it isn't about that person. cheating is about yourself.