Martino: New Morrissey

marky · Post by **marky** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:52 am

My intention here is to express that I have not forgotten. I read the Mojo Morrissey interview as I said I would and enjoyed it quite a bit. I do think he has become quite bitter over the years and I noticed that when I heard the new single on the radio and it bothered me a bit. I mean, I can sympathize with him for becoming bitter, but bitterness doesn't necessarily make good art, as Nile Rodgers of Chic so astutely realized when he described the downfall of Chic.

Nevertheless I do plan to give the new Morrissey a proper hearing just because of you and because after reading the interview, I would honestly fall into a sinkhole of guilt if I didn't. Maybe I won't like it, but I plan to give it a try. I shall report back later.

Post by **mccutcheon** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:47 am

I like it.

TragicPixie · Post by **TragicPixie** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:49 pm

I like it... well... I think I liked it.

At the moment, I may not be in a state to know what I like anymore.

I need to stop posting still half drunk don't I...

Maverick · Post by **Maverick** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:35 pm

why should you stop...everyone else here posts half...or fully...drunk. It's the PA way, apparently.

TragicPixie · Post by **TragicPixie** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:18 pm

I always hate being suprised by the fact that I've replied to something... or said something.

Aside from the fact that it's probably incriminating to admit to my drunken state when I'm underage

martino · Post by **martino** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:31 pm

mark, i really appreciate your sympathy and all, but calling me the new morrissey is way overdoing it. how about the new smother's brothers, i'd like that. or the new frank cannon. this is all 70s crap actually so, moving on to the 1980s, how about "martino: dick assman"

marky · Post by **marky** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:04 am

Ha ha! Martino is the New Morrissey!

You bet it's the tradition, Mav. I've had a bottle of wine and half a Guinness by now. You? Don't feel bad if you're sober, man. It's all part of the party. Believe me.

Come to think of it, Martino, I've been meaning to ask this for a long time: what is that thing you are holding below your chin in the picture? It reminds me of those funny flat scoop things that people use for scooping up rice for sushi. Either that, or I think you are playing that game...what is it when you have the paddle and a ball connected to the paddle by a rubber string?

I will get to the Morrissey quite soon now (AND the new PJ Harvey!) as soon as I finish The Replacements' "Tim". Is there any other song in the history of Western culture that captures the feeling of being a teenager better than "Kiss Me On The Bus"? I doubt it.

marky · Post by **marky** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:10 am

I always hate being suprised by the fact that I've replied to something... or said something.

Actually I can relate. I left two messages on the music freak board that surprised me. I was reading certain threads later on after the fact, and then blam! there was a post from *me* that I didn't remember writing. Pretty unnerving. But I think to realize it is the first step toward dealing with it. You CAN learn to curb these excesses.

Post by **mccutcheon** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:59 pm

I really like this album. Music is in a good state.

But I'm at a loss for books. I haven't read anything better or even as good as Burnt in the last year. Lately I've been reading memoirs--Jim Knipfel, David Sedaris and Augusten Burroughs, and they are okay, David and Jim are still pretty good but not at their best, and I am starting to think Augusten sucks, the most over rated writer around at the moment. It's not funny, it's not quirky, and shame of all is that it isn't even entertaining. Never read books by old ad men. They try to sell you something that just isn't there.

marky · Post by **marky** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:54 pm

Well, I listened to the song about America so far and found myself so moved I couldn't seem to concentrate on what I had been doing before it came on. I should be able to burn the whole album to CD here in about an hour.

martino · Post by **martino** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:57 pm

one of my favorite books of all times is austerlitz, by w g sebald.

i only know the german original but the english translation got rave reviews as well. if the book club were in operation i would have recommended it for sure, even though it is not the easiest read.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 1:02 am

Tommy here have just finished "the curious incident of the dog in the nightime." Like nothing else you will ever read and all done and dusted in one afternoon.

Tommy Martyn · Post by **Tommy Martyn** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:15 pm

Martino. I am led to believe there is a German expression that translates roughly as, "the applause wanted to be over." Is this right?

martino · Post by **martino** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:56 am

the only phrase i can think of, tommy, is

"nicht enden wollenden Applaus",

which literally means "applause that does not want to stop",

which actually means applause that goes on and on after an excellent performance.

your question is about the inverse, however. i think there is no applicable expression.

why do you ask, tommy? i do hope that yours was not a rhetorical question and i, as a sense-of-humor-challenged german, am not missing some insinuation.

Post by **Sloth** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:22 pm

I just read a book called Them: Adventures with Extremists
by Jon Ronson. It was funny, poignant, and all true. It chronicles interviews amongst conspiracy theorists, white supremists, and Islamic fundamentalists. I could not put it down.

Then I read Great Gatsby. I think I read it in high school once and hated it. I hated it again. Fitzgerald ought to have called it Some Loveless Rich Guy Who Lived on An Egg Surrounded by Boring People. That would have spared me 6 hours of my life. My brother liked this book a lot. I asked him why and he told me he didn't know why, he just liked it. The more I probed him the more he admitted that the book is a little pointless and boring. This is supposed to be one the best works of American literature of all time. It was meant as a criticism of the American lifestyle of wealth and decadence. I am gonna have to check out some more of his works later. He does have a way with words, even if he writes about nothing relevant to my life.

While down in the keys on a 65 foot catamaran I also reread The Old Man and the Sea by Papa Hemmingway. I read that one back in high school and loved it. I read it again and loved it. I bet Hemmingway beat up Fitzgerald when they met up in Paris. I know he was a major critic of his work.

I know how Mc feels when he says he thinks Sedaris has peaked. Some modern writers can just be so dull. I wish I had a copy of Burnt!